>From this description, it seems like the <section/> element has little use. If 
>you're talking about writing articles, most authors consider the start and end 
>of sections as implicitly defined by headings. Making this explicit seems 
>unnecessary so long as headings are still available and used. It's just extra 
>syntax to represent something that is more easily represented without it.

-Nicholas


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On Fri, Feb 29, 2008 at 11:39 AM, Nicholas Zakas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I don't think it's as clear as you make it out to be. A "section" and a 
"division". I hate to consult a dictionary on this, but one definition for 
"section" is "subdivision". The naming alone does not make it clear what the 
difference is. The <nav/>, <header/>, and <footer/> elements are pretty clear 
as to their usage. 



Some additional language might be good for clarifying.  Optionally, got any 
better suggestions for the element's name?
 


Anne mentioned that <section/> interacts with <h1/>-<h6/>...how so?



In HTML5, the <hx> hierarchy is explicitly ignored.  Instead, they're all 
treated the same.  The actual heading level is determined by <section> nesting.


If <section/> is something people believe in, then there really has to be more 
definition around it and its difference with <div/>. I know part of HTML 5 is 
to mitigate the div-itis problem, but without clearer distinctions you'll just 
end up with a mishmash of <section/> and <div/> being used interchangeably.



Okay, let's make sure it's clear.  <section> has a pretty anemic description in 
the spec currently.

To the best of my knowledge, the basic use case of <section> is dividing up 
related content within an <article>.  This is pretty easy to use correctly.

Question to others:  I think it is somewhat unclear what exactly the correct 
semantics are for <section> when it is encountered outside of an <article>.  
Since <section> is the most generic of the sectioning tags, there is a definite 
risk of it falling into the same hole that <div> is in.  Where exactly should 
<section> be used when outside of an article, and when should we just default 
to the <div>?

~TJ








      
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