From my point of view (working with wikis, and more specifically with the Xinha WYSIWYG editor) it's a use case I often run into for user- editable content. Right now, we do all sorts of lovely things to try and keep our "magic" in place (backlinks, numbering, classes, etc.). It would be much easier if there was semantic support for footnotes in the first place.

As an aside <tongue in cheek/> I noticed the new aside element. Isn't aside more of a presentational decision? What's the difference between sidenotes and footnotes other than styling? Would we be better off combining both use cases into a single element with an attribute to provide display hinting? This would give more choice to user agents when it came to final display in constrained situations (mobile, print, screen readers, etc.)

Douglas Mayle
The Open Planning Project

On Dec 15, 2008, at 5:18 PM, Brenton Strine wrote:

Maybe after having a few months to think about it some better ideas will pop up?

I'd like to see a dedicated way to do footnotes as well. I think it would be worth having the discussion again.

Brenton

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected] ] On Behalf Of Ian Hickson
Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 2:11 PM
To: Douglas Mayle
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Subject: Re: [whatwg] Footnotes

On Mon, 15 Dec 2008, Douglas Mayle wrote:

I'm sorry to bring this up if the subject has been touched on before...

In perusing the HTML5 standard, I noticed that footnotes are still a
redheaded stepchild in the draft.  Given how many workarounds and
hacks are performed to create support for footnotes using standard
elements, is there any reason why there isn't a dedicated mechanism
for footnotes in HTML?

The main reason is that we couldn't find any solutions that were especially compelling. A more detailed response to the earlier feedback on the topic is here:

  http://lists.whatwg.org/htdig.cgi/whatwg-whatwg.org/2008-April/014485.html

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