At 12:09  +1000 13/05/09, Silvia Pfeiffer wrote:
On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 5:01 AM, Jonas Sicking <[email protected]> wrote:
 On Sun, May 10, 2009 at 6:56 PM, David Singer <[email protected]> wrote:
 At 14:09  +1000 9/05/09, Silvia Pfeiffer wrote:
  Of course none of the
 discussion will inherently disallow seeking - scripts will always be
 able to do the seeking. But the user may not find it easy to do
 seeking to a section that is not accessible through the displayed
 timeline, which can be both a good and a bad thing.

How easy a particular user interface is to use for various tasks is (I hope)
 not our worry...

 I'm not sure I agree. If the spec provides a feature set that no one
 is able to create a useful UI for, then there definitely might be a
 problem with the spec.

 I still have not received any comments on my previous assertion that
 there are essentially two separate use cases here. One for bringing
 attention to a specific point in a larger context, one for showing
 only a smaller range of a video.

Just to confirm: yes, there are two separate use cases. (I was under
the impression that the discussion had brought that out).

Yes, that's fine. I think it's clear that we could have a 'verb' in the fragment "focus-on", "select" etc. to indicate that. I think it's also clear that no matter what verb is used, the entire resource is 'available' to the UA, that scripts can (if they wish) navigate anywhere in the entire resource, and that UAs can optimize the interface for the given verb, but the interface can still permit access to the entire resource.
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David Singer
Multimedia Standards, Apple Inc.

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