On Feb 18, 2010, at 2:54 PM, L. David Baron wrote:

On Thursday 2010-02-18 16:45 -0600, Tab Atkins Jr. wrote:
Anne suggested in IRC using the pseudoclass approach, and pairing it
with the ::value pseudoelem from the Basic UI Module.  You could get

But the key question (from the Webkit bug) is really whether the UA
styles apply to the input itself or a pseudo-element inside of it.

If the UA style is
 input:has-placeholder { color: ... }
then, as far as I can tell, there's no point to styling the ::value.

If the UA style is
 input:has-placeholder::value { color: ... }
then you get the same cascading result as with an input::placeholder
pseudo-element (styles that don't select the pseudo-element don't
change the UA default), but with the addition that authors can style
the input in other ways.

If we did that, then one of the two differences between pseudo-class and pseudo-element approaches would be eliminated - in either case setting the input color via inline style would not also change the placeholder text color to the same color.

The remaining difference would be whether you could style aspects of the input element other than the text in the mode where it is showing placeholder text. What are the use cases for styling other aspects of the input element?

Regards,
Maciej

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