On 8/12/2010 4:19 PM, Ian Hickson wrote:
On Sat, 24 Jul 2010, Brett Zamir wrote:
Might there be a way that<script/>  tags could add an attribute which
combined the meaning of both "defer" and "document.write", whereby the
last statement was evaluated to a string, but ideally treated, as far as
the DOM, with the string being parsed and replacing the containing
script node.

For example:

<script  write>
     '<span  onmouseover="alert(\''+(new Date())+'\')">I\'ve got the
date</span>'
</script>

If E4X were supported (since we otherwise lamentably have no PHP-style
HEREDOC syntax in JavaScript to minimize the few warts above), allowing
this to be used could be especially convenient:

<script  write>
     <span  onmouseover="alert(new Date())">I've got the date</span>
</script>

(Maybe even a new<write/>  tag could be made to do this exclusively and
more succinctly.)

I chose "defer" as the default behavior so as to be XHTML-friendly, to
allow convenient reference by default to other DOM elements without the
need for adding a listener, and the more appealing default behavior of
not blocking other content from appearing.

Since it doesn't seem that XQuery support will be making it into
browsers anytime soon, it would be nice to be able to emulate its clean
template-friendly declarative style, dropping the need to find and
append to elements, etc..
I don't really see what this proposal would solve. Can you elaborate on
what this would allow that can't be done today?

It would simplify and beautify the addition of dynamic content and encourage separation of business logic from design logic (at least for content displayed on initial load).

For example, using proposed shorter form <write/>, one might do this:

<script>
   // business logic here
   var localizedMsg = "I've got the date: ";
   var businessLogicDate = new Date();
</script>
<write>
    "<span>"+localizedMsg.toUpperCase() + businessLogicDate + "</span>"
</write>

It would simplify for those with a frequent need for template pages. The template(s) expressed by <write/> could succinctly express the design logic without need for document.write() used everywhere. The semantically named tag would also distinguish such templates from other scripts.

For XHTML, it would be especially useful in being able to offer document.write functionality (since such a tag would be defined as deferring execution until the rest of the page had loaded). No need for onload handlers, no need for adding and referencing IDs in order to find the element, and no need for DOM appending methods in order to provide dynamic content.

Brett

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