Donnerstag, Juergen wrote:

Isn't it much easier to run automated tests and to print error message
instead of validating each and every line of code and to make sure that in
the future ... Why spend so much time on checking code etc. if a simple
test, which doesn't harm anybody and which is created in minutes, can do as
well. And if there were zillions of bugs which have /potential/ impact, than
I would add them as well. But is java really that buggy at in its core?



You bet some versions have been. Anyone remembers working with the first JDK1.2?. Brrrr!


Regards
Juergen

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We just have to make sure we do not introduce that construct. Like I said,
we do not so far. I think guarding against JDK bugs can only be done by just
being carefull (and know what potential pitfalls are). What about the
zillion of bugs in other JDK versions? As soon as I saw the bug report a
couple of weeks ago, I checked the code of Wicket for it. Other devs should act likewise when they see potential bugs.


Regards,

  Eelco

Donnerstag, Juergen wrote:



Eelco,

The only purpose of this test was to make sure that no one building Wicket from CVS is using a compiler with that bug. It not only proves that JDK 1.5 is used for testing, but also that class file generated don't contain the bug. I haven't checked the whole Wicket code for such a construct, but as we are using final quite a lot, it may very well be. And if not now, it may be in the future. It is just like fuse, going


off if the environment is wrong.


Doesn't that help prevent strange error messages and people wasting time while hunting a potential problem? I still think is makes sense.

Regards
Juergen

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I do not agree with the test case 'FinalTernaryIfCompilerBug'. I read about the bug, but as this construction is never used (yet?) in Wicket, this is never a problem. Furthermore, if the test failes, it only proves that JDK
1.5 is used for testing.


I'll remove the test class. Anyone disagrees with this?

 Eelco


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