ah ok, that is just my pure english
On Fri, 11 Feb 2005 13:53:08 -0800, Jonathan Locke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > that's fine, except that "contrib" and "library" have exactly the > opposite meanings to me. > "library" is something stable and supported and reliable. "contrib" is > normally the dumping > grounds. > > Juergen Donnerstag wrote: > > >Why not use something like > >http://eclipse-plugins.2y.net/eclipse/index.jsp to maintain a library > >of wicket contribution? We could leave wicket-contrib for project > >related, but non-core, components. And everyone who would like to > >contribute his component may add it to to the "library". > > > >Juergen > > > > > >On Fri, 11 Feb 2005 07:51:27 -0800, Jonathan Locke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > >>okay, i can agree with you guys about signin panel leaving the core. > >>but i disagree completely about password text field, which is a core > >>component as well as the list view extensions. > >> > >>where these things should go is another matter. the problem i have with > >>contrib is that in every project i've ever seen, it's /not/ filled with > >>high quality components. so, i tend to avoid looking at contrib right > >>away because that's usually very uneven or in the worst case, just a > >>dumping ground for whatever. also, i think beginners and those with > >>less time or talent should have a place where they can contribute stuff > >>that's fairly half-baked and which someone else might touch up. so i > >>tend to think contrib is the right place for this kind of stuff. > >> > >>anyway, what i'd like to see is some "third place" then that's not a > >>dumping ground and is not the core. something like "wicket-components" > >>maybe. > >> > >>so i'm suggesting: > >> > >>wicket - core > >>wicket-examples - polished examples > >>wicket-components - polished components > >>wicket-contrib - not so polished stuff > >>wicket-contrib/examples - not so polished examples > >>wicket-contrib/components - not so polished components > >> > >>that would give us enough places to put everything and not have to > >>reject anyone's contribution or pollute the polished stuff > >> > >>Eelco Hillenius wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >>>I agree with Martijn. -1 for moving some of the examples to contrib. > >>>Also, - but I've argues this before - I would be +1 for moving the > >>>sign in panel to contrib, just like password text field and some of > >>>the ListView extensions. ListView/ PageableListView are absolutely > >>>core components however. The tree could be argued on, though we had > >>>that argument, and decided it should stay in core. > >>> > >>>Contrib should be filled with high quality reusable components, not > >>>will all kinds of experiments. > >>> > >>>Now about the examples... I would prefer to keep most of the examples, > >>>but just have the best ones visible from the index page. A lot of > >>>project work like this, and as a framework user, I like it when there > >>>are a lot of code examples, even when some of them are not that good/ > >>>not finished. > >>> > >>>The few examples that are in the project that hardly do anything, or > >>>that most of us agree on are not good practice, should be removed (and > >>>not put back in any project). If we have different opinions on how to > >>>solve certain problems, there will allways be that Wiki (or your own > >>>blogs?) for that. > >>> > >>>Eelco > >>> > >>>Martijn Dashorst wrote: > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>>-1 > >>>> > >>>>Contrib is a component contributions project. Examples just feature > >>>>examples. I agree that those should be pristine examples with the > >>>>best design. > >>>> > >>>>Rule of thumb: anything you can create by composing or extending core > >>>>components should be in the contrib project. Anything that is a > >>>>showcase of how something might be done should be in the examples > >>>>project. > >>>> > >>>>I think I would move the SignInPanel to the contrib package, because > >>>>as you mention, it will become a beast of a component. I also noticed > >>>>that some on this list would never use the component, which is also a > >>>>signal to move it into contrib. In my opinion, the core should > >>>>consist of only the basic components which don't aggregate multiple > >>>>components: > >>>> > >>>>core: > >>>> - form stuff (inputs, form, buttons, but no composite components) > >>>> - markup stuff (panel, border, page, links, but no panels > >>>>containing components) > >>>> > >>>>giving benefit of the doubt: > >>>> - listview (and its pageable variants) > >>>> - treeview > >>>> - menu (is it even there?) > >>>> - basic validation (Number taking a numberformat? Date, ...) > >>>> > >>>>contrib: > >>>> - signin panel > >>>> - datetime field picker > >>>> - etc. > >>>> > >>>>Jonathan Locke wrote: > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>>i'd like to move SignInPanel and friends into a subfolder of panel > >>>>>called signin > >>>>>and FeedbackPanel into a subfolder called feedback. this will give > >>>>>us room to > >>>>>grow and stay orderly if we add more stock panels to the core. > >>>>>already sign-in > >>>>>panel has a bunch of localization files and probably ought to have a > >>>>>ton. > >>>>> > >>>>>also, want to move a few of the examples out of wicket.examples to > >>>>>contrib > >>>>>since we want wicket.examples to really show polished examples that > >>>>>demonstrate > >>>>>best-practices. some examples have no description on the index > >>>>>page. we need > >>>>>to at least explain what it demonstrates... > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>------------------------------------------------------- > >>>>>SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide > >>>>>Read honest & candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real > >>>>>users. > >>>>>Discover which products truly live up to the hype. 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