Chris I agree with you, for me 1 KB will always be 1024 bytes, however a little while ago eelco told me there was a new "standard" called kibibytes and mebibytes (absolutly ridiculous names :)). You can read all about them at the wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Binary_prefix. maybe if this was made configurable everybody would be happy. Or if you think it too much work for such a small issue just leave it at 1024 ;) ________________________________
Maurice Marrink -----Original Message----- From: Chris Turner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: woensdag 29 juni 2005 7:56 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [Wicket-develop] 1 kilobyte == 1000 bytes Actually, I don't think that anyone who is not an uber computer nerd has any concept of bytes or the magnitude involved when referring to K, MB, GB and so on. Most people that I talk to (including some IT people) regularly seem to confuse MB and GB for example. Most non-techy people I have encountered tend to think of computer related sizes in more generic terms like 'Is this too big to email?', 'How many of these can I store on my disk?' and so on without ever really grasping the concepts of multiple bits making up bytes or the base-2 numbering system. I'm personally a very pedantic and purist person as well as being a mathematician and one of the afore mentioned uber geeks. To my mind a kilobyte will therefore always be 2^10 regardless of what some storage manufacturer might try to tell me! Unless the fundamental architecture of computers changes from base 2 to base 10 then a kilobyte can never be a thousand bytes as far as the computer is concerned! regards, Chris Gili wrote: > > Ha! I'll bite... Do you think in binary? I don't. > > The only reason I even proposed this change in the first place is > that everyone I've ever talked to (except uber nerds) think and talk > in terms of 1K = 1000 bytes. I've been using computers for almost > twenty years now with 1K = 1024 bytes being the standard... If I can > make the leap (and prefer the new convention) and the majority of > people think in terms of the decimal system, why *not* jump? > > No one has yet to challenge my assumption that the majority of > people think in terms of 1K = 1000 bytes. Do we agree this is true? > > Gili > > Phil Kulak wrote: > >> The only reason we are moving towards 1000 is so that storage >> manufactures can add 10% or so (it gets more as storage increases) to >> their actual capacity. Why does Wicket have to jump on that bandwagon? >> >> On 6/28/05, Gili <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >>> Windows does 1024 but (in my view) this conflicts with the >>> fact most >>> Windows users think it is 1000. You'd have to be pretty technically >>> inclined to know about the 1024 thing. Just my 2 cents. >>> >>> PS: There is a good chance Microsoft didn't move from 1024 to >>> 1000 >>> because of backwards compatibility concerns, which is far more >>> reasonable for an operating system than a webapp framework :) Back in >>> 1995 when Win95 came out, 1024 was still the standard. >>> >>> Gili >>> >>> Jonathan Locke wrote: >>> >>>> what does windows report? 1024 or 1000? >>>> it would be pretty silly to be inconsistent with the world's most >>>> popular platform's filesystem... >>>> >>>> Juergen Donnerstag wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>> This was a request from Gili. >>>>> >>>>> "We should use 1 kilobyte = 1000 bytes as mention here: >>>>> http://encyclopedia.laborlawtalk.com/kilobyte >>>>> >>>>> This standard has been around since at least 1998 and I >>>>> personally believe most people think in terms of this >>>>> standard anyway (i.e. decimal, not binary system)." >>>>> >>>>> Based on the answers I have seen so far, we agree on this change. It >>>>> that correct? 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