As I explained, all components (including Page A) must declare

public List<Class> getNestedComponents();

this replaces the external configuration file that component developers must define and it contains roughly similar information. The benefit of this approach, however, is that you get compile-time errors if you reference a nonexistant component.

        So in your example, your Page would look something like this:

public class PageA extends WebPage {

        public PageA() {
        }

        public List<Class> getNestedComponents() {
                List<Class> result = new ArrayList<Class>();
                result.add(PageB.class);
                result.add(PageC.class);
                return result;
        }

        public init() {
                
                Form a=new SomeForm();
                a.add(new Button() {
                        public void onSubmit() {
                                setResponsePage(new PageB());
                }

                add(new Link() {
                        public void onClick() {
                                setResponsePage(new PageC());
                        }
                }

        }
 }

As for the second part of your question, if you add bookmarkable pages from 3rd party libraries and they are not reachable from any other Page, then it would be your responsibility to add them into the Application. I would dare say, however, that this will never occur. 3rd party libs usually add Pages you point into, not Pages that clients hit directly. I don't think there is a real-life use case where this would occur but even if there was we can continue working to automate that as well.

Gili

Igor Vaynberg wrote:
        Does it make more sense now?


Ummm....not really...

How do you get PageB and PageC from the following? And what if PageA comes
from a 3rd party lib?

public class PageA extends WebPage {

        public PageA() {
                
                Form a=new SomeForm();
                a.add(new Button() {
                        public void onSubmit() {
                                setResponsePage(new PageB());
                }

                add(new Link() {
                        public void onClick() {
                                setResponsePage(new PageC());
                        }
                }

        }
}
-Igor



-----Original Message-----
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        That's not true.

Any pages referenced from your root pages do not have to be added. So for example, you'd add your homepage and if it is possible to reach all other pages from that page (recursive search) then that's the only page you ever need to add.

        So in summary, root pages consist of all your bookmarkable pages
*minus* any bookmarkable page which can be reached from a preexisting root page.

So for example, if my bookmarkable pages are A, B, C but A references B and C (directly or indirectly), I only need to add Page A.

        Does it make more sense now?

Gili

Igor Vaynberg wrote:

What do you mean by *root pages* - all pages are root pages.
-Igor




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Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2005 9:41 AM
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navigation


You'd only have to register the *root* Pages. All other pages (including bundled third party ones) are discovered for free.

Gili

Igor Vaynberg wrote:


I think it would really suck to have to register all your

pages. Also


what about pages that come bundled with a third party lib -

same problem remains.


-igor





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Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2005 9:26 AM
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navigation


        I suggested, multiple times now, how we can completely

eliminate the


need for these external configuration files. No one has yet

to explain


to me why this idea would not work or why it is worse than

the current


design.

        Why not use this mechanism?

public interface IComponentInitializer {
        public void init(Application application);
        public List<Class> getNestedComponents(); }

        where getNestedComponents() returns the class names of

all components


that will be added into the component. This will allow you

to discover


(recursively) all the components in a given Application.

        An end-user then only has to say:

        Application.add(rootPage1);
        Application.add(rootPage2);

        and Wicket will then automatically find out about all

the remaining


components by invoking getNestedComponents().

        Finally, as I already explained, we move component

configuration


(calling add() etc...) from the constructor (where it currently
resides) into a separate method (i.e.
init()) and the default constructor for Page should do

nothing. This


way Wicket can easily construct pages, invoke
getNestedComponents() to find out all nested components in a very efficient manner.

Gili

Johan Compagner wrote:



I don't think you can search for that..
If you know a way then i am will check that out.

because how would you do that? How do you can through ALL

packages (==



directories)

johan


Igor Vaynberg wrote:




Yes I see Jon. Thank you for a very long and detailed

explanation as



to why
my idea sucked. I still think there is some room for

improvement in the



current situation. Cant we do a saerch through avail

packages looking



for a
.resources file (im not sure how this would be done).

It would be nice to simply have DatePicker.resources side

by side with



DatePicker.java. It would eliminate refactoring headaches

at least as



far as
the package names go and it wouldn't be sitting in some

separate folder.



-Igor







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paging navigation



actually it's not just that the service registration info

has to be



put somewhere, it's that a client component that's using

a service to



create a dynamic resource like, for example, some kind of

panel that



wants a dynamic button image created...
/that component/ would have to be able to create its

images /when the



app starts/ (because of clustering and server restarts).

and /only



the panel component itself/ can or should know about this

/and/ it



has to be done on startup.  wicket's resource handling

classes are


already fully featured, object-oriented "services" (but

less vague


and more OO powerful) by virtue of the fact that

they implement



the IResourceListener interface and respond to requests

for resources



(ANY resource). so i just don't see any value at all in

this service



concept beyond what we've already got.  in fact, i think

it would


significantly /subtract/ from wicket's existing support

for dynamic



resources (think "service" if you prefer)... and again,

even if we



did change the world, it wouldn't solve the bootstrapping

problem we



have for components.

Johan Compagner wrote:






how does a component with a dynamically generated

image make that



image available in your scheme?
the component has to register the image with the

service, doesn't



it?

The component doesn't need to register an image with a

service, it



can register the service that creates the images.
The images themselves can be created on the first request

http://www..../app?service=mydynamicbuttons&button=A

Whenever this url is hit wicket forwards the control to the registered mydynamicbuttons service (registered by whatever
component) which creates the image A, caches it, and

streams it to



response. Or precreate whatever you need when the

service


object is



created and registered with the application.

And THIS last part is just the problem

how does it register itself? When?
Where is it specified that a component does that?
I think in the end we have exactly the same thing...
you have a file like:
mydynamicbuttons=my.class.that.exposes.this.Service

johan







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