You know guys, working with wicket ive been going through xml-withdrawl, so
maybe this is a good place to introduce some xml!!!!

<wicket-bootstrap>
        <component-initializers>
        
<component-initializer>com.foo.class1</component-initializer>
        
<component-initializer>com.fool.class2</component-initializer>
        </component-initializers>
        <room for future expansion/>
</wicket-bootstrap>

This is way better then com.foo.class1,com.foo.class2!!!

-Igor
 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf 
> Of Jonathan Locke
> Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2005 2:27 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [Wicket-develop] feedback refactor and paging navigation
> 
> 
> true. 
> 
> the name came from "wicket-" to identify the META-INF file as 
> wicket-related, followed by "component-initializers" to 
> identify that the components in the file implement 
> IComponentInitializer, followed by ".txt" to allow the file 
> to be opened in notepad or whatever by just clicking on it.  
> i'm not saying this is ideal.  it's just how it is right now.
> 
> if we want to move to a properties file, we could go for this instead:
> 
> wicket.properties:
> components=wicket.Foo,wicket.Bar,...
> 
> we'd of course search for <AppName-wicket.properties> as well.
> 
> that would allow us to expand the usage beyond just 
> initializing components if we ever needed something like that...
> 
> it might be prudent to do it this way...
> 
> Johan Compagner wrote:
> 
> > it is not really a properties file. A property file is 
> something like:
> > xxx=yyyy
> >
> > johan
> >
> >
> > Cameron Braid wrote:
> >
> >> It looks to me like there is no other way.
> >>
> >> I'm not so bothered by a single text file that contains a list of 
> >> classnames.
> >>
> >> Why is it called wicket-component-initializers.txt ?
> >> I think the .txt extension is a bad idea.  Since if I use 
> eclipse to 
> >> refactor classes - I usually get it to scan for fully 
> quanified class 
> >> names in .properties files (and .xml files) Would it be a 
> bade idea 
> >> to use the.properties extension ?
> >>
> >> Cameron
> >>
> >>  
> >>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>> [mailto:wicket-develop-
> >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Johan Compagner
> >>> Sent: Friday, 12 August 2005 6:32 AM
> >>> To: [email protected]
> >>> Subject: Re: [Wicket-develop] feedback refactor and paging 
> >>> navigation
> >>>
> >>> I don't think there is a standard way.
> >>> We could test if the ClassLoader was a URLClassLoader 
> (and then call
> >>> getUrls() on it)
> >>> But this doesn't have to be the case i think..
> >>>
> >>> Also File.list() can't work on a classloader. Because you 
> don't have 
> >>> a dir (you could have but you could have anything)
> >>>
> >>> johanm
> >>>
> >>> Cameron Braid wrote:
> >>>    
> >>>
> >>>> One other issue that comes to mind - where would the 
> classpath list 
> >>>> of jars/folders come from - since we can't rely on
> >>>> System.getProperty("java.class.path") from within 
> servlet containers.
> >>>>       
> >>>
> >>> Is
> >>>    
> >>>
> >>>> there a standard way to obtain the servlet context's classpath ?
> >>>>
> >>>> Cameron
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>      
> >>>>
> >>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:wicket-
> >>>>>         
> >>>>
> >>> develop-
> >>>    
> >>>
> >>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gili
> >>>>> Sent: Friday, 12 August 2005 6:21 AM
> >>>>> To: [email protected]
> >>>>> Subject: Re: [Wicket-develop] feedback refactor and paging 
> >>>>> navigation
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>     Good point. So going back to the original proposal, 
> it sounds 
> >>>>> like it'll be very fast if we use 
> File.listFiles(FilenameFilter).
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Gili
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Cameron Braid wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>        
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> This would be worse - you would still need to scan all jars / 
> >>>>>> folders
> >>>>>>           
> >>>>>
> >>> on
> >>>    
> >>>
> >>>>> the
> >>>>>
> >>>>>        
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> class path - then for any filename ending in .class - 
> you would 
> >>>>>> have
> >>>>>>           
> >>>>>
> >>> to
> >>>    
> >>>
> >>>>> do
> >>>>>
> >>>>>        
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Class.forName() which will load the class - thereby 
> loading EVERY
> >>>>>>           
> >>>>>
> >>> class
> >>>    
> >>>
> >>>>> on
> >>>>>
> >>>>>        
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> the classpath - not a good idea.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Cameron
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>          
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>>>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:wicket-
> >>>>>>>             
> >>>>>>
> >>> develop-
> >>>    
> >>>
> >>>>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gili
> >>>>>>> Sent: Friday, 12 August 2005 6:06 AM
> >>>>>>> To: [email protected]
> >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Wicket-develop] feedback refactor and paging 
> >>>>>>> navigation
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>     Taking one step further... would it be possible 
> to drop the 
> >>>>>>> resource file altogether and use pure reflection? 
> Specifically, 
> >>>>>>> we search the classpath for classes which implement interface 
> >>>>>>> IComponentInitializer and if so we assume they contribute 
> >>>>>>> resources and invoke their
> >>>>>>> init(Application) method.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>     Cameron is right that someone should profile this but I 
> >>>>>>> think this is ideal in that it is truely object oriented and 
> >>>>>>> zero-configuration --
> >>>>>>>             
> >>>>>>
> >>> and
> >>>    
> >>>
> >>>>>>> it is a one-time cost at startup.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Gili
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Cameron Braid wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>            
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> This would mean searching every sub-directory of every 
> >>>>>>>> classpath
> >>>>>>>>               
> >>>>>>>
> >>> entry
> >>>    
> >>>
> >>>>>>> (i.e.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>            
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> jars and folders)
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> This will have a performance impact on the startup time of 
> >>>>>>>> wicket -
> >>>>>>>>               
> >>>>>>>
> >>> how
> >>>    
> >>>
> >>>>>>>> large - I dunno - someone cart to implement and profile ?
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> If the performance hit is insignificant - I think 
> this is the 
> >>>>>>>> better
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>               
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>> way
> >>>>>
> >>>>>        
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>> to
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>            
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> do it.  Although - why not name the file 
> >>>>>>>> ComponentClassName.wicket
> >>>>>>>>               
> >>>>>>>
> >>> :)
> >>>    
> >>>
> >>>>>>>> Cheers,
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Cameron.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>              
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>>>>>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> >>>>>>>>> [mailto:wicket-
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>                 
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>> develop-
> >>>>>
> >>>>>        
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gili
> >>>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, 12 August 2005 5:10 AM
> >>>>>>>>> To: [email protected]
> >>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Wicket-develop] feedback refactor and paging
> >>>>>>>>>                 
> >>>>>>>>
> >>> navigation
> >>>    
> >>>
> >>>>>>>>>     I'm +1 on Igor's proposal (.resource files) because 
> >>>>>>>>> amongst
> >>>>>>>>>                 
> >>>>>>>>
> >>> other
> >>>    
> >>>
> >>>>>>>>> things, it'll allow you to merge multiple JAR files 
> into one 
> >>>>>>>>> easily (should you wish to do such a thing) and ship a JAR 
> >>>>>>>>> with a whole
> >>>>>>>>>                 
> >>>>>>>>
> >>> bunch
> >>>    
> >>>
> >>>>>>>>> of related components as opposed to having to have 
> a different 
> >>>>>>>>> JAR
> >>>>>>>>>                 
> >>>>>>>>
> >>> for
> >>>    
> >>>
> >>>>>>>>> each component. Right now you'd have to merge the META-INF/
> >>>>>>>>>                 
> >>>>>>>>
> >>> resource
> >>>    
> >>>
> >>>>>>>>> file by hand. Also, obfuscators such as Proguard will 
> >>>>>>>>> automatically
> >>>>>>>>>                 
> >>>>>>>>
> >>> do
> >>>    
> >>>
> >>>>>>>>> this sort of JAR file merging and "shrinking" but 
> will not be 
> >>>>>>>>> able
> >>>>>>>>>                 
> >>>>>>>>
> >>> to
> >>>    
> >>>
> >>>>>>>>> handle merging these META-INF files. Anyway... just food for
> >>>>>>>>>                 
> >>>>>>>>
> >>> thought.
> >>>    
> >>>
> >>>>>>>>> Gili
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Jonathan Locke wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>                
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> sorry.  didn't mean to jump on you, igor.  i just 
> wanted to 
> >>>>>>>>>> make
> >>>>>>>>>>                   
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>> sure
> >>>    
> >>>
> >>>>>>> we
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>            
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> didn't throw
> >>>>>>>>>> out something that's worth keeping...  because there have 
> >>>>>>>>>> been
> >>>>>>>>>>                   
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>> some
> >>>    
> >>>
> >>>>>>>>>> problems with
> >>>>>>>>>> resources, a lot of people have been clamoring to 
> change the 
> >>>>>>>>>> whole plan.  since i've been the one behind the 
> current plan 
> >>>>>>>>>> and wrote most or all of the
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>                   
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>> code
> >>>>>
> >>>>>        
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> for it, i have
> >>>>>>>>>> been trying to explain why i wrote it that way.  it's not 
> >>>>>>>>>> perfect
> >>>>>>>>>>                   
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>> for
> >>>    
> >>>
> >>>>>>>>>> sure (nothing ever is!),
> >>>>>>>>>> but i think the basic idea is not only not broken, but it's
> >>>>>>>>>>                   
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>> actually
> >>>    
> >>>
> >>>>>>>>>> pretty solid... especially
> >>>>>>>>>> with the fixes we did last night.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> i agree about the init thing, but i think that
> >>>>>>>>>> Classloader.getResources() would have to be enhanced to do 
> >>>>>>>>>> this... not 100% sure though...  if there's a 
> reasonable way 
> >>>>>>>>>> to do this, we should look into it.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Igor Vaynberg wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>                  
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Yes I see Jon. Thank you for a very long and detailed 
> >>>>>>>>>>> explanation
> >>>>>>>>>>>                     
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>> as
> >>>    
> >>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> to why
> >>>>>>>>>>> my idea sucked. I still think there is some room for 
> >>>>>>>>>>> improvement
> >>>>>>>>>>>                     
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>> in
> >>>    
> >>>
> >>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>            
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> current situation. Cant we do a saerch through avail 
> >>>>>>>>>>> packages
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>                     
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>> looking
> >>>>>
> >>>>>        
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> for a
> >>>>>>>>>>> .resources file (im not sure how this would be done).
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> It would be nice to simply have 
> DatePicker.resources side by 
> >>>>>>>>>>> side
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>                     
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>> with
> >>>>>
> >>>>>        
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> DatePicker.java. It would eliminate refactoring 
> headaches at
> >>>>>>>>>>>                     
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>> least
> >>>    
> >>>
> >>>>> as
> >>>>>
> >>>>>        
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> far as
> >>>>>>>>>>> the package names go and it wouldn't be sitting in some 
> >>>>>>>>>>> separate
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>                     
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> folder.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>                
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> -Igor
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>                    
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>>>>>>>>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>>>>>>>>>>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Behalf Of Jonathan Locke
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2005 1:17 AM
> >>>>>>>>>>>> To: [email protected]
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Wicket-develop] feedback refactor 
> and paging
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>                       
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>> navigation
> >>>>>
> >>>>>        
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> actually it's not just that the service 
> registration info 
> >>>>>>>>>>>> has to
> >>>>>>>>>>>>                       
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>> be
> >>>    
> >>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> put somewhere, it's that a client component 
> that's using a
> >>>>>>>>>>>>                       
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>> service
> >>>    
> >>>
> >>>>> to
> >>>>>
> >>>>>        
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> create a dynamic resource like, for example, 
> some kind of 
> >>>>>>>>>>>> panel
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>                       
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>> that
> >>>>>
> >>>>>        
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> wants a dynamic button image created...
> >>>>>>>>>>>> /that component/ would have to be able to create 
> its images
> >>>>>>>>>>>>                       
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>> /when
> >>>    
> >>>
> >>>>> the
> >>>>>
> >>>>>        
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> app starts/ (because of clustering and server 
> restarts).  
> >>>>>>>>>>>> and
> >>>>>>>>>>>>                       
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>> /only
> >>>    
> >>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> the panel component itself/ can or should know 
> about this 
> >>>>>>>>>>>> /and/
> >>>>>>>>>>>>                       
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>> it
> >>>    
> >>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> has to be done on startup.  wicket's resource handling 
> >>>>>>>>>>>> classes are already fully featured, object-oriented 
> >>>>>>>>>>>> "services" (but less vague and more OO powerful) 
> by virtue 
> >>>>>>>>>>>> of the fact that they
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>                       
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>> implement
> >>>>>
> >>>>>        
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> the IResourceListener interface and respond to 
> requests for
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>                       
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>> resources
> >>>>>
> >>>>>        
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> (ANY resource). so i just don't see any value at all in 
> >>>>>>>>>>>> this
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>                       
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>> service
> >>>>>
> >>>>>        
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> concept beyond what we've already got.  in fact, 
> i think it
> >>>>>>>>>>>>                       
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>> would
> >>>    
> >>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> significantly /subtract/ from wicket's existing 
> support for
> >>>>>>>>>>>>                       
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>> dynamic
> >>>    
> >>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> resources (think "service" if you prefer)... and again, 
> >>>>>>>>>>>> even if
> >>>>>>>>>>>>                       
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>> we
> >>>    
> >>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> did change the world, it wouldn't solve the bootstrapping
> >>>>>>>>>>>>                       
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>> problem
> >>>    
> >>>
> >>>>> we
> >>>>>
> >>>>>        
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> have for components.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Johan Compagner wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>                      
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> how does a component with a dynamically 
> generated image 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> make
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                             
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>> that
> >>>>>
> >>>>>        
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> image available in your scheme?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the component has to register the image with the 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> service,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                             
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>> doesn't
> >>>>>
> >>>>>        
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                             
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> The component doesn't need to register an image with a
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>                           
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>> service,
> >>>    
> >>>
> >>>>> it
> >>>>>
> >>>>>        
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> can register the service that creates the images.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> The images themselves can be created on the 
> first request
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www..../app?service=mydynamicbuttons&button=A
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Whenever this url is hit wicket forwards the 
> control to 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the registered mydynamicbuttons service (registered by 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> whatever
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> component) which creates the image A, caches it, and 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> streams
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>                           
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>> it
> >>>    
> >>>
> >>>>> to
> >>>>>
> >>>>>        
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> response. Or precreate whatever you need when 
> the service
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>                           
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> object is
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>                      
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> created and registered with the application.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>                           
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> And THIS last part is just the problem
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> how does it register itself? When?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Where is it specified that a component does that?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I think in the end we have exactly the same thing...
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> you have a file like:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> mydynamicbuttons=my.class.that.exposes.this.Service
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> johan
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
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