I agree, it removes cludges we have build in. Transparent borders as far as I can tell are only used for bordered pages (A base page constructor adds a border child with setTransparent(true) to the page and MyPage adds whatever component is required to the page as well instead of to the border). Because I ask to remove get/setTransparent() alltogther you'll get an compile time error and it will be obvious that you need to change something.
Juergen On 9/12/06, Igor Vaynberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > i think its actually quiete the opposite, we are eliminating a lot of > cludges we had built over the "years". with the constructor refactor we are > trading flexibility for simplicity/straight-forwardness - at least in this > case. transparent borders were horrible mutant offsprings imho :) > > > -Igor > > > On 9/11/06, Eelco Hillenius <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Gee, it sucks that we're getting more corner cases then. > > > > Eelco > > > > > > On 9/11/06, Igor Vaynberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > depends. > > > > > > first we might lose transparent borders altogether depending on what > juergen > > > is talking about, in that case anything can be a parent. > > > > > > then even if it is a border on the page who is to say that was the > intended > > > usecase. i use borders in my pages just because they are borders - not > for > > > this usecase. > > > > > > another problem in 2.0 is that the order matters because we do the check > in > > > construction time not at render time so > > > > > > new Label(this, "foo"); > > > new Border(this, > > > "pageborder").setTransparentResolver(true); > > > > > > will work in 1.2.x but not in 2.0 and when the error happens the border > > > hasnt even been added to the page yet. true that most of these borders > > > wouldve been added in some base page, but the possibility is still > there. > > > > > > > > > -Igor > > > > > > > > > On 9/11/06, Eelco Hillenius <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: > > > > The only thing you have to catch are borders that are direct children > > > > of pages, right? How difficult is that? > > > > > > > > Eelco > > > > > > > > On 9/11/06, Igor Vaynberg < [EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: > > > > > well, the problem is that there is no way for you to identify this > > > specific > > > > > case. the only thing you can do is to check if the page contains any > > > borders > > > > > - which it might or might not yet depending on the addition order. > and > > > even > > > > > then if it does who is to say the user was using the bordered page > > > approach. > > > > > i think it will just add a lot of confusion, better to simply make > it > > > clear > > > > > the usecase is no longer supported in the changes > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -Igor > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 9/11/06, Eelco Hillenius <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > Yes very technicaly you are right. However, I'd like to help users > > > > > > that have been using bordered pages with pre 2.0 by explaining > that > > > > > > they can't do that anymore by catching that specific case. > > > > > > > > > > > > Eelco > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 9/11/06, Igor Vaynberg < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > it doesnt need to be more specific - it is what it is exactly. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > if you add a component to the page that is not referenced in the > > > page's > > > > > > > markup you get the error right there. > > > > > > > if you add something to the border that is not referenced in > either > > > > > border's > > > > > > > or border's parent's markup that is inside the border you get > thet > > > error > > > > > > > right there also. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it doesnt get more specific then that. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -Igor > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 9/11/06, Eelco Hillenius < [EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: > > > > > > > > I'd hope for something more specific if possible. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 9/11/06, Igor Vaynberg < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Also, if we would decide to ditch this feature, there > > > obviously > > > > > has to > > > > > > > > > > be proper error reporting. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i would imagine this would be the standard " cannot find > markup > > > for > > > > > > > > > component ...... 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