I don't think so. Looking at your problem there is no component that
needs to transparently forward the request to render its parent. The
problem with the Form/border example is that TextField has to be a
child of Form in order to work properly. Resolvers can not solve that
problem. Resolvers are about finding the component for the markup.
Resolvers are not able to re-organize the component hierarchy.
I still think this a two different problems. One is about find the
proper markup fragment in Component constructor and the form/border
problem is about changing the component hierarchy. Two problem, two
different solutions requried.
Juergen
On 9/12/06, Igor Vaynberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> yes, the transparent resolver was used to "emulate" this situation although
> obviously not completely - only cases where hierarchy did not need to be
> changed worked. but i think if we support this functionality it will take
> care of a subset of usecases that transparent resolvers used to take care of
> - but in a much cleaner manner.
>
>
> -Igor
>
>
> On 9/12/06, Juergen Donnerstag <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > ok understand. In this case you really need to change the component
> > hierarchy. But in the original use (bordered page), that isn't the
> > case.
> >
> > Juergen
> >
> > On 9/12/06, Igor Vaynberg < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > no it doesnt work. let me give a more complete example. i dont know if
> we
> > > should support a usecase like that although, imho, it would be very very
> > > nice if we could.
> > >
> > > class FormBorder extends Border {
> > > public FormBorder() {
> > > new Form(this, "form");
> > > }
> > >
> > > <wicket:border><form
> > > wicket:id="form"><wicket:body/></form></wicket:border>
> > >
> > > class MyPage extends WebPage {
> > > public MyPage() {
> > > FormBorder b=new FormBorder(this, "border");
> > > new TextField(b, "textfield");
> > > }
> > >
> > > <html><body><span wicket:id="border"><input wicket:id="textfield"
> > > type="text"/></span></body></html>
> > >
> > > the problem here is that the hierarchy will look like this
> > > page->border
> > > page->border->form
> > > page->border->textfield
> > >
> > > but i expect it to be
> > > page->border
> > > page->border->form
> > > page->border->form->textfield
> > >
> > > if i want to make this work currently i have to do
> > >
> > > FormBorder fb=new FormBorder(this, "border");
> > > new TextField(fb.getForm(), "textfield");
> > >
> > > which makes the border looks some of its magical appeal.
> > >
> > >
> > > -Igor
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On 9/12/06, Juergen Donnerstag < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > And that doesn't work?
> > > >
> > > > I have a case which doesn't work. Look at Library example. The
> > > > structure is like Home.java -> AuthenticatedWebPage ->
> > > > WicketExamplePage.
> > > > WicketExamplePage adds "mainNavigation" whos markup is defined in the
> > > > transparent border which is added in AuthenticatedWebPage. When
> > > > mainNavigation is added, the border component is not yet.
> > > >
> > > > Juergen
> > > >
> > > > On 9/12/06, Igor Vaynberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:
> > > > > well, the problem is that the components actually need to be
> children of
> > > > > what is surrounding wicket:child
> > > > >
> > > > > if i have <form><wicket:body/></form> - those components need to be
> > > children
> > > > > of the form - so its not just a matter of markup resolution.
> > > > >
> > > > > -Igor
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On 9/12/06, Juergen Donnerstag < [EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > > > > > I don't like the re-parenting idea for this use case very well
> because
> > > > > > we have two hierarchies: 1) components and b) markup. Currently
> > > > > > getParent() is clearly the component hierarchy and IMO we
> shouldn't
> > > > > > change it. getMarkupFragment() needs to be intelligent enough to
> find
> > > > > > the markup in the markup hierarchy. If that means we not only
> search
> > > > > > in the container but also in all transparent childs, than I think
> it
> > > > > > is worth a trial.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Juergen
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On 9/12/06, Igor Vaynberg < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > > > > i dont think this is a case of a transparent resolver - even
> though
> > > they
> > > > > > > couldve been used previously. what we need is to do this to
> properly
> > > > > support
> > > > > > > it
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > make wicket:body a webmarkupcontainer
> > > > > > > when a child is added to a border the border needs to check
> where
> > > the
> > > > > markup
> > > > > > > is
> > > > > > > if the markup is in the border add it to the border
> > > > > > > if the markup is inside wicket:child add it to the created
> > > wicket:child
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > this will maintain a consistent hierarchy
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > what we need is something i talked about before...
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > IParentResolver { MarkupContainer getParent(); } - that allows a
> > > > > component
> > > > > > > to redirect its children to something else (usually something
> inside
> > > > > it).
> > > > > > > that way a border component can implement this interface and
> > > redirect
> > > > > > > children to its internal wicket:child markup container.
> > > implementations
> > > > > of
> > > > > > > this will need to be careful because they will be working on a
> > > > > > > non-initialized class since the check for IParentResolver will
> be in
> > > the
> > > > > > > Component constructor.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > johan and i had discussed it previously, but that discussion has
> > > stalled
> > > > > > > until one of us had time to seriously look into this.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > -Igor
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On 9/12/06, Martijn Dashorst < [EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > > > > > > > It is a case that could be solved previously by using
> transparent
> > > > > > > > resolvers, which were needed for borders. So if we need it for
> > > this
> > > > > > > > usecase, then we could solve the border problem along the way
> ;-)
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Martijn
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On 9/12/06, Igor Vaynberg < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > i dont think thats exactly the same as what we originally
> talked
> > > > > about.
> > > > > > > but
> > > > > > > > > i do think we need to support this usecase as well, i hit it
> a
> > > while
> > > > > ago
> > > > > > > > > with a <form> instead of <div>
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > -Igor
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > On 9/12/06, Martijn Dashorst < [EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > Well, I can see a usecase for this, including markup
> > > inheritance:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > <div
> > > > > wicket:id="modifyattrsonserverOrDoAjaxyStuff">
> > > > > > > > > > <wicket:child />
> > > > > > > > > > </div>
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > though the div might not be a border per se
> > > (WebMarkupContainer
> > > > > > > > > > springs to mind)... I think we need to support this case.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Martijn
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > On 9/12/06, Juergen Donnerstag <
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > It might work, but in opinon it is feature rarely used
> > > > > especially as
> > > > > > > > > > > markup inheritance is avaiable as well. IMO it is too
> much
> > > magic
> > > > > > > > > > > besides that it would allow to remove some "just because
> of
> > > > > bordered
> > > > > > > > > > > pages" code in several places. IMO the feature is not
> worth
> > > the
> > > > > > > extra
> > > > > > > > > > > code.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Juergen
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > On 9/12/06, Martijn Dashorst <
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > I think we could limit the transparent resolving only
> to
> > > > > > > components
> > > > > > > > > > > > that are already definied in the flow. I don't think
> this
> > > is a
> > > > > too
> > > > > > > > > > > > severe restriction, but will keep the door open for
> > > current
> > > > > > > usecases.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Martijn
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > On 9/12/06, Martijn Dashorst <
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > >
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Hmm,
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > just a thought, but not completely thought through
> > > though...
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > The auto border could be set as an autoparent, in
> the
> > > base
> > > > > > > > > > > > > constructor. This would give Wicket the means to use
> the
> > > > > border
> > > > > > > as
> > > > > > > > > an
> > > > > > > > > > > > > auto look up thing.
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > The idea was that in your base class you define the
> > > border
> > > > > as
> > > > > > > auto.
> > > > > > > > > As
> > > > > > > > > > > > > the super constructor is always called first, you
> can be
> > > > > sure
> > > > > > > (as a
> > > > > > > > > > > > > user) that your tranparent resolver is already in
> place
> > > when
> > > > > the
> > > > > > > new
> > > > > > > > > > > > > components are added.
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > As for the parent path... when a component is
> resolved
> > > to a
> > > > > > > > > > > > > transparent parent, why not set the parent
> automagically
> > > to
> > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > border
> > > > > > > > > > > > > ourselves?
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > The search algorithm could be:
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > pointer = current component;
> > > > > > > > > > > > > while(parent != null) do {
> > > > > > > > > > > > > if (any siblings of pointer that are
> Transparent?)
> > > > > > > > > > > > > resolved, set parent to the transparent
> sibling
> > > > > > > > > > > > > else
> > > > > > > > > > > > > move pointer to parent of current component
> > > > > > > > > > > > > }
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > The usecase is still there: if you have some tag
> that
> > > > > surrounds
> > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > <wicket:child>. We can't support it properly without
> > > solving
> > > > > > > this
> > > > > > > > > > > > > problem.
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Martijn
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > On 9/12/06, Eelco Hillenius <
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > new Label(getMyBorder(), "label", ..);
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ah, yeah, of course.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
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