Is there no-one that likes JAAS? I think JAAS rocks. It is just very lousy supported in web applications. But we've (at Topicus) been able to use full fledged JAAS with just a few classloader hacks at our applications.

Eelco

Igor Vaynberg wrote:

Same reason why I don't like Acegi. Declarative security doesn't fit well
with component oriented frameworks. What I like about having permissions and
rolls that agregate permissions is that it lets you check security in all
the layers.
Your dao's can check permissions and your services/gui can check roles.

-Igor


-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Phil Kulak
Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2005 9:19 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Wicket-user] a little OT...

You know, when I think about it, you can have a polymorphic users domain that is also assigned roles, so that's not a problem for Acegi.
My latest blog entry talks about the problem jroller.com/page/pkulak

I just think that Acegi is very complex. That may be fine is you have very complex permissions requirements to match, but I just don't need declatative security. I'd rather just write a couple lines in Wicket's
checkAccess() method, or whatever it's called.

On 8/9/05, Igor Vaynberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I always liked systems where the lowest level is a permission (read this, write that, etc), then roles consist of sets of
permissions, and
the user has a set of roles.

Just my 2 cents.

-Igor
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