Yeah, I guess we should re-introduce the serial ids. We discarded them because it is a lot of work to maintain them. Note that Johan and Jonathan just fixed a couple of issues with session serialization too (resources), so the serial ids are probably the last ones to fix.

Eelco


Gili wrote:

> Sorry Gili, I don't want to bash NetBeans here, but its lack of SSH CVS
> support was a show stopper for me when I tried 4.1. Broken Maven support
> was another, but as I submitted a bug for that quite some time ago, I
> expect that is fixed now. I'll check out 4.2. soon.
>
> Eelco

Netbeans 4.2 dev build has built-in SSH support. Not sure when this was added, but I'm using it now and it works just fine. And yeah, Netbeans isn't perfect but from a usability point of view, I've fallen in love with it :) And for webapp development it is absolutely priceless (versus other IDEs).

On a related note, I just filed bug #1259203 for Wicket+Tomcat usability issues. Since Netbeans uses an internal Tomcat server for webapp development this is a very big deal (causes serious productivity losses). I also use Tomcat on my production server so I'm quite happy that this is what is being used inside Netbeans so I don't get any surprises when I deploy. I think a lot of these issues should be simple to fix (i.e. add a serialization id to all the classes).

Gili


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