Maybe you could start out learning Cayenne by adding a Cayenne
implementation of the wicket-contrib-database stuff. It's not really
ORM tool agnostic until it has another working implementation, right?
It shouldn't be too hard, it just takes a little time.
- Jon
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 2005-08-26 8:51:05 AM >>>
Ok, so "I've got your back" then :) I'm reading the user manual
now. I'm less concerned about performance (I hear it is equivilent to
Hibernate anyway) and more concerned about when I run into problems
will it be obvious how to solve them and/or will I have somewhere to
ask (in
this case their mailing list).
I *do* wish, however, they had an IRC channel as I am not a fan
of mailing lists in general (takes too long). Do you happen to know if
they have one (official or not)?
Thanks,
Gili
Jonathan Carlson wrote:
I've been pretty pleased with Cayenne and I'm starting soon on a
Cayenne
implementation of Jonathan L's wicket-contrib-database stuff. Also,
the
RAD components I'm building (and hope to check in within a week or
two)
are abstracted enough to support different ORM tools (mainly my
filtered List component)
One caveat is that my uses so far haven't forced me to tune the
default
Cayenne options for speed so I wouldn't be a good resource for that.
I
was satisfied with their explanations of prefetching and query
caching,
etc. The developers do seem to be very helpful and quick to
respond,
and the traffic on the mailing list is consistently good.
It would probably help to have another person on the Cayenne mailing
list who is enthusiastic about Wicket. The last time I touted Wicket
on
the list, they seemed interested, but it became obvious that many of
them were already committed to Tapestry -- hence the Tapestry example
on
their site with no Wicket example. :-(
- Jonathan Carlson
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 2005-08-25 11:05:03 PM >>>
I am seriously considering dumping Hibernate in favor of
Cayenne
because the former has a multitude of bugs and usability issues I ran
into which the authors refuse to acknowledge (don't mention the word
"bug" on their discussion forum or else they will ban you. No joke!).
Anyone who honestly thinks their software has no bugs *has* to be
delusional in my book.
Anyway, I'm wondering whether anyone has tried using Cayenne
before? I noticed a lot of Wicket users have had experience with
Hibernate so I
figured this was a good place to ask. I read that Cayenne is
feature-equivilent to Hibernate but the developers are far more
friendly and their support base is stronger. With Hibernate whenever
I ran
into
trouble and try asking for help the developers first tell me off,
then
proceed to tell me to go buy their book. Now, I can hardly fault them
for their capitalistic ploy, but I have a hard time justifying to
myself having to pay money to people who badger users asking for help.
Frankly, I hope they crash and burn for their attitude.
So back to the point. Does anyone have any experience with
Cayenne or maybe Apache OJB? I'm look at
http://c2.com/cgi-bin/wiki?ObjectRelationalToolComparison for a
comparison but it is rather dry. I'm looking for practical experience
from real people. Let me know...
Gili
