What about getRequest().getParameter(formComponent.getInputName()); ?

Eelco

On 11/16/05, Matej Knopp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I think this is not about updating model nor validating. It's about
> preserving http parameters, that are already sent.
>
> What I want to achieve is that you have kind of immediate button, that
> preserves the form attributes (exactly as they were filled by the user),
> but doesn't update model, nor validates components.
>
> I think it should be handled on component level. Right now, every
> FormComponent has an invalidInput string. I think of something similiar,
> but more general.
>
> If an immediate button (with some attribute like preserveFormState set
> to true) was clicked (or drop down combo changed, etc...), these fields
> well be updated from request attributes. If another request came,
> without attributes, values from these fields would be displayed.
> On regular form submit, model would be updated and these fields cleaned.
>
> Right now, it's not quite possible to do it this way, because
> FormComponent.getValue() is final (Is this necessary?).
>
> -Matej
>
>
>
> Eelco Hillenius wrote:
> > On 11/16/05, Laurent PETIT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >>Hello Eelco,
> >>
> >>
> >>>First of all, let's agree that your use case is not a typical one. We
> >>>shouldn't make core adjustements that would make things easier for 5%
> >>>but harder for 95% of the cases.
> >>
> >>Not sure if you're talking about Matej's or mines (a drawback of the
> >>GMail's view ...) ;-)
> >
> >
> > Matje's.
> >
> >
> >>I don't understand why you would make things harder for 95% of the
> >>other cases ? I think that simplicity can be combined with "proper"
> >>default behaviour ?
> >
> >
> > It wouldn't nescesarily be the case. I just wanted to issue a warning
> > that we shouldn't make things more complex in order to make that 5% a
> > little bit easier.
> >
> >
> >
> >>>Anyway, I think what you want can be done rather elegant now. Like you
> >>>outlined, you should use Button.defaultFormProcessing = false to begin
> >>>with. In your onSubmit methods of these buttons, you can manually
> >>>trigger validation and/ or model updates (e.g. call
> >>>Form.updateFormComponentModels).
> >>
> >>Except if I didn't well understand the behaviour of the
> >>defaultFormProcessing flag, I think this would not help in my use case
> >>(if I add a New Banana, I definitely don't want to update the other
> >>models at the same time, while still re-rendering the page with the
> >>current user inputs).
> >>
> >>By the time, I'll checkout the HEAD version, since Johan told about an
> >>"immediant" button. I want to check what this is.
> >>
> >
> >
> > Johan referred to 'immediate' which was the name that I gave to the
> > property that is now defaultFormProcessing. I used immediate because
> > JSF (and Tapestry?) use that name. But other devs felt
> > defaultFormProcessing was a better name.
> >
> > The point of that property is that once you set it off, you can do
> > form processing in any way you want - or at least that is the idea. So
> > you can do an update of all models, but you can also do a partial
> > update if you want. Same goes for validation.
> >
> >
> >
> >>>The next trick is to use models specifically for your view layer, and
> >>>once you're done with your wizard style functionality, combine these
> >>>models into something you really need. You won't loose any input this
> >>>way.
> >>
> >>Yes, but you will still lack the automatic field type validation and
> >>conversion, won't you ? Because if I use models, and if I allow users
> >>to temporarily enter bad inputs (such as "foo" in a numeric
> >>textfield), my (intermediate) model will have to handle only strings.
> >>For all form components then ... (except maybe those from combobox,
> >>radio buttons & checkboxes).
> >>And so, when my complete form is finally submitted, I will have to do
> >>all the validations manually (required, type conversions, ranges,
> >>...). Not so good, is it ?
> >
> >
> > If you are ready for validation, you can call Form.validate manually
> > or even for each form component you want to validate
> > FormComponent.validate. You can use FormComponent.isValid and/ or
> > Form.hasError to see whether that validation got you any errors.
> >
> >
> >>I guess the IValidator should mainly be used for 1-1 validations,
> >>"superficial" validations such as required, ranges, types, ....
> >
> >
> > Months ago, I worked on a form level validation interface for a couple
> > of days. But I abandonned it as it made things more complex than it
> > would actually helped people, and I focussed on openening up form
> > processing instead.
> >
> >
> >>Yes, I'll dive into the code ASAP, so that (I hope so) my next posts
> >>will be more constructive, and not only feature requests ;-)
> >>
> >
> >
> > That would be good. Patches or concrete improvement suggestions are
> > always welcome, at least for discussion :)
> >
> > Eelco
> >
> >
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