this has already been discussed on the list! but for the sake of ending this discussion for now, svn uses the same server for anon and authenticated access. so that means no lag. because its the same machine.

-Igor


On 3/10/06, Gili <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

        One final question, did SourceForge mention whether moving to SVN will
remove the sync lag between the dev and anonymous servers? There is
still a couple hours worth of lag between their CVS servers.

Gili

Gili wrote:
>
>     That's perfectly fine with me. If SVN anonymous access is reliable
> then I'm more than happy to stay with SourceForge.
>
> Gili
>
> Eelco Hillenius wrote:
>> The thing is, that such a change is not trivial for us. We had a very
>> good reason to move away from codehaus, as they were very unresponsive
>> to our requests. And that was not too long after the start of the
>> project too. However, moving to some other host now will be a major
>> undertaking for the team, so we better make sure it is worth it. I'd
>> say let's wait for a bit and see whether this SVN thing will help our
>> users out. Furthermore, there have been talks with people from Apache,
>> which might in the future be one of the options open to us.
>>
>> Eelco
>>
>>
>> On 3/10/06, Gili < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>         You totally control what goes in the main body of the
>>> website. Put in
>>> whatever navigation and color-scheme *you* happen to like. Go wild! If
>>> you absolutely cannot stand having a sidebar, create your own website
>>> and link it to java.net resources.
>>>
>>>         Call me crazy, but I am more concerned with reliability than
>>> pretty
>>> colors. I've always disliked SourceForge's ugly pages myself until
>>> they've recently revamped them. You could always write a request to the
>>> java.net admins asking for the ability to banish the sidebar altogether
>>> or make it configurable. Requests go here:
>>> https://java-net.dev.java.net/servlets/ForumMessageList?forumID=93
>>>
>>> Gili
>>>
>>> Riyad Kalla wrote:
>>>> If by the crappy left hand menus and not being able to tell what
>>>> belongs
>>>> to the site, what belongs to the project and overall having a hard time
>>>> finding files that belong to the project, screenshots, docs, etc...
>>>> then
>>>> yes, me too.
>>>>
>>>> Eelco Hillenius wrote:
>>>>> I don't like their navigation though.
>>>>>
>>>>> Eelco
>>>>>
>>>>> On 3/10/06, Gili <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>         Normally I would agree... but this has been going on for
>>>>>> over a year
>>>>>> now (them making promises that CVS will get fixed anytime now). I
>>>>>> don't
>>>>>> doubt that SVN support will become standard on SF.net sometime
>>>>>> soon. I
>>>>>> *do* doubt that their reliability will change. Who says SVN will work
>>>>>> any better than CVS? The flakiness was never in the CVS software,
>>>>>> it was
>>>>>> in the SF hardware and/or configuration.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>         java.net has a better track record and they do seem to
>>>>>> meet all the
>>>>>> requirements (don't they?). Isn't it worth looking into it?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Gili
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Guillermo Castro wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Gili,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> SouceForge has SVN support too. I think that SF is making lots of
>>>>>>> progress in getting their tools together. The recent redesign of the
>>>>>>> pages, the added svn support, etc. means that SF is still
>>>>>>> fighting to be
>>>>>>> *the* open source software projects repository.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 3/10/06, *Gili* < [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>>>> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>             Also, java.net <http://java.net> just got SVN support!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://java-net.dev.java.net/servlets/ProjectForumMessageView?messageID=11831&forumID=93
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> <https://java-net.dev.java.net/servlets/ProjectForumMessageView?messageID=11831&forumID=93 >
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     Gili
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     Gili wrote:
>>>>>>>      > Hi,
>>>>>>>      >
>>>>>>>      >     I just realized java.net <http://java.net> has a very
>>>>>>> fast
>>>>>>>     CVS server, mailing lists,
>>>>>>>      > issue tracker, etc... I think it has everything we need
>>>>>>> (correct
>>>>>>>     me if
>>>>>>>      > I'm wrong).
>>>>>>>      >
>>>>>>>      >     Also, I think we could even plug in JIRA to use as the
>>>>>>> issue
>>>>>>>     tracker
>>>>>>>      > if we wanted.
>>>>>>>      >
>>>>>>>      >     Would it be possible to move off SF's crusty CVS
>>>>>>> server and onto
>>>>>>>      > java.net <http://java.net>?
>>>>>>>      >
>>>>>>>      > Gili
>>>>>>>
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