Ah. sorry :) On 5/20/06, Johan Compagner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
we wheren't talking about the GWT at this time anymore but about CSS and the content-box model.johan On 5/20/06, Eelco Hillenius < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What do you mean it doesn't work? As the target platform? Sure Safari works. Just not out-of-the-box for development. Eelco On 5/19/06, Johan Compagner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > do you have a example html for me where all the stuff is in what you do and > where i can see/test > in all the browsers that i have to support? > > I would like to have such a test html. > > johan > > > > On 5/19/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Citát Johan Compagner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > > hmm.. that sucks. I tested in in konqueror and it worked. As far as i know > > safari uses khtml. I wonder where the problem is... > > > > -matej > > > > > hmmm can't use it > > > We have to target that shitty mac (sorry guys ;) ) and it seems that the > > > default browser > > > safari doesn't work as far as i could test. > > > > > > johan > > > > > > > > > On 5/18/06, Matej Knopp < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > The doctype is xhtml transitional. But there's an additional comment > > > > (<!-- -->) before doctype to trick IE and make it work in quirks mode. > > > > (Because in standard compliance mode IE uses the W3C box model, which > > > > sucks). > > > > This should work with strict too. Also <?xml header would do this, but > > > > wicket is kind of reluctant to print it, so i just put comment there). > > > > > > > > So far, this setup works (tested) for Firefox, Opera, Konqueror, > IE5.0+. > > > > Only thing i'm not sure with is IE7. If it won't be fooled by comment > > > > before doctype and won't allow to set box-sizing in standard > compliance > > > > mode there will be a problem. I hope MS engineers are sane enough to > > > > implement box-sizing css property, which is currently supported by any > > > > decend browser (except for IE of course). > > > > > > > > -Matej > > > > > > > > > > > > Johan Compagner wrote: > > > > > So you are saying that it is possible to support many browser to get > > > > > border-box? > > > > > > > > > > hmm that would solve so many problems we have... > > > > > > > > > > So you let IE stay in quircks mode and have for firefox that > > > > > -moz-box-sizing: border-box; > > > > > and for other browsers (maybe IE7) the CSS3? standard: box-sizing: > > > > > border-box; > > > > > > > > > > What is your doctype? > > > > > > > > > > johan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 5/18/06, *Matej Knopp* < [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]>> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Igor Vaynberg wrote: > > > > > > allow myself to quote...myself > > > > > > > > > > > > || imho, html is the best layout manager out there for > browser > > > > > apps. add > > > > > > css to the mix and you have a great skin manager as well. > > > > > > > > > > > > i never said css was great for layout manager :) and yes the > box > > > > > model > > > > > > is broken. > > > > > The box model really is broken. Therefore I always stick with IE > box > > > > > model > > > > > > > > > > * { > > > > > box-sizing: > border-box; > > > > > > -moz-box-sizing: border-box; > > > > > } > > > > > > > > > > The only thing to take care of is not to allow IE6 to work in > > > > > standard-compliance mode. So far, I had no problems with this > setup. > > > > I'm > > > > > doing quite complicated layouts using just css (no tables) and > > > > > everything works fine. I just hope that IE7 won't screw > everything > > > > up. > > > > > > > > > > -Matej > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -Igor > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 5/17/06, *Johan Compagner* < [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > <mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > <mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > ha! and css is easier then layout manager in java... > > > > > > hmm that is not how i see it. > > > > > > CSS is just plain horrible stupid box thing.. > > > > > > > > > > > > And what is a layout manager in css? There isn't one > > > > > everything is > > > > > > sort of absoluut positioned and then you can do in swing > also > > > > > > (not recommended ofcourse) > > > > > > > > > > > > johan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 5/17/06, *Igor Vaynberg* < [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > <mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > imho, html is the best layout manager out there for > > > > browser > > > > > > apps. add css to the mix and you have a great skin > > > > > manager as well. > > > > > > > > > > > > the one thing you always hear swing developers > bitching > > > > > about is > > > > > > how they have to fight the layout managers to get the > > > > results > > > > > > they want. gridbaglayout is poweful but its a huge > pain > > > > > to work > > > > > > with. > > > > > > > > > > > > matisse+grouplayout are the holy grail for swing > devels, > > > > its > > > > > > nice and easy to create layouts. but it still > requires a > > > > > gui to > > > > > > do this, while i can do html easily by hand. also > browser > > > > > screen > > > > > > space doesnt translate easily to the desktop space. > in > > > > > desktop > > > > > > space you are pixel aware, you are also pixel aware > of > > > > your > > > > > > fonts and the south east corner of the window. in > html > > > > > you have > > > > > > none of these things. > > > > > > > > > > > > look at wingS framework examples, they use layout > > > > > managers. look > > > > > > how rectangular their examples look. > > > > > > > > > > > > -Igor > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 5/17/06, *Frank Silbermann * > > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > <mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]>>> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > I, personally, don't care for HTML, and perhaps I > > > > > might enjoy > > > > > > programming in Echo2 better. > > > > > > > > > > > > But suppose an employer maintained an HTML > fragment > > > > with > > > > > > links to their > > > > > > entire portfolio of web applications, and wanted > this > > > > > > fragment to appear > > > > > > on every page of each web application. Since > someone > > > > > else is > > > > > > maintaining that scrap and keeping it up-to-date, > I > > > > would > > > > > > not want to > > > > > > translate it into Echo 2 and maintain my own > copy. > > > > > > > > > > > > Would it not likely be easier to incorporate such > an > > > > HTML > > > > > > scrap into a > > > > > > Wicket application, versus one written in a > framework > > > > > such > > > > > > as Echo 2 > > > > > > that abstracted away the HTML completely? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > From: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > <mailto: > [EMAIL PROTECTED]>> > > > > > > [mailto: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > <mailto: > [EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > > <mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>] On > Behalf > > > > > > Of Eelco > > > > > > Hillenius > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2006 10:58 AM > > > > > > To: > [email protected] > > > > > <mailto: [email protected] > > > > > > > <mailto: > [email protected] > > > > > <mailto: [email protected]>> > > > > > > Subject: Re: [Wicket-user] Google Web Toolkit > > > > > integration ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > It's certainly an intriguing idea (have a look > at > > > > > haxe.org < http://haxe.org > > > > > > > <http://haxe.org> if you find > > > > > > > it interesting), ... > > > > > > ... > > > > > > Yeah. I see some advantages of using layout > managers > > > > - > > > > > > basically the > > > > > > same promise as Swing has - but currently I would > > > > still > > > > > > prefer using > > > > > > HTML for layout. If I would like the GWT way of > > > > > developing > > > > > > applications, I would have choosen Echo 2 a long > time > > > > > ago. > > > > > > GWT looks > > > > > > like a next gen Echo to me, though with a very > big > > > > name > > > > > > behind it, and > > > > > > some cool innovations. ... Eelco > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > Using Tomcat but need to do more? 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