> point is, its nice to have the option. and there are plenty cases where
> criteria api is much more readable then hql, not to mention it is much
> easier to build search queries, etc instead of using a whole lot of nasty
> string concatenations. " where 1=1 " look familliar? :)

Sure does! :)  And agreed, I wish they would have included the Criteria API.

> because jetty+spring starts up in like 20 seconds (thats with spring
> creating all the beans on startup for me), jboss takes more then a minute
> just for itself. thats a lot of waiting for me every time hotswap cant cope.
> and last time i checked configuring jboss not to start some of the things i
> dont need is a nightmare, i tried in the past a few times and a few hours
> into it gave up. plus i dont need to deal with any of the stupid descriptor
> files, etc. web.xml and spring.xml is all i need and they are all simple.
> and no weird classloader issues, etc. its just a simpler development
> environment that saves you lots of time, and if you want to deploy on jboss
> for prod there is nothing stopping you.

Honestly, I haven't had these problems so I can't relate.  JBoss
4.0.4.GA starts in about 20-30 seconds and deploying the apps I've
built takes 3-5 sec. roughly.  The only descriptor file I've had to
use so far is a one-liner that maps the URL of the web app to the EAR
app.  You're right, however, you would always deploy-up to JBoss if
needed but probably not deploy-down from JBoss to a servlet/JSP
container simply because those services wouldn't be available.

> was that a pro or a con? :)

Obviously that depends on who you ask :D  You could probably imagine
my opinion on this.


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