Hehe, I espcially agree to the unlearning effect. Had a hard time getting used 
to the fact that wicket controls what are selected in a component...


Regards Nino

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eelco Hillenius
Sent: 26. september 2006 13:12
To: wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [Wicket-user] Wicket arguments for big slow companies (Was:links 
about wicket scalability...)

>     * Very small learning curve.
>       Comment: Agreed. But I still think you need at least one more
>       experienced Wicket developers for more advanced things like
>       manipulating html generated by other components. Of course, books
>       like 'Pro Wicket' help a lot but are not for every programmer.

I'm not even sure whether I agree :) Wicket can be hard for people
that are not comfortable with OO programming. If all you've learned so
far is coding PHP, JSP or RoR will be much easier to pick up. Also,
for people who have done a bunch of projects with web MVC frameworks
like Struts, there is what Howard Lewis Ship (Tapestry) calls the
'unlearning effect'.

Wicket probably *is* very easy to learn for programmers that are
experienced OO programmers, did a lot of Swing/ SWT/ ... desktop
applications, or weren't doing too much UI before. Also, I think
Wicket is the best of all web frameworks to learn for programmers who
are now learning the trade. It's just Java and just HTML instead of
yet another DSL, and imo there's not much that will encourage bad
programming practices.

> I also thought about: * Good support for modern web pages (AJAX), while
> being compatible with older browsers. But this one is I am afraid not
> good enough. For example FireFox 1.0 is not supported.

This is not inherently true for the framework though. We provide a
convenience implementation for Ajax, which can be used with other
implementations (Dojo, scriptaculous, your own, ...). I think a strong
feature of Wicket is that you can create you custom components,
including any Ajax support you want for them, without too much
trouble.

Eelco

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