WSS is Web Side Story, http://websidestory.com/, but it's not a free service

Aaron


Korbinian Bachl wrote:
Hi,
 
can you please explain and tell more about this WSS (especially what WSS is) ? as it sounds very promising so far...
 
Korbinian
 


Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Im Auftrag von Aaron Hiniker
Gesendet: Sonntag, 29. Oktober 2006 04:04
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I'd guess that you would implement your own IRequestFactory and manually write the access log from there.  You have access to the servlet and if you wanted to turn wicket requests into meaningful, trackable information (I know exactly what you are talking about), you'd have to manually write out an access log that matches something your tracking software can read (like standard Apache log format).  Once you have the http servlet, you have the HTTP method, IP address, and all the other headers.  As far as the actual request URL you could write anything based on the Page/Resource that the WebRequest is processing.  You could, for example, rewrite all requests to com.mysite.MyPage as http://mysite.com/com/mysite/MyPage?param1=value1.. with the params generated from the PageParameters. 

One a side note, I am more used to using WSS, where you just change the tag information in the js code and WSS tracks the requests into different categories that you specify.  URLs are not important because it's the JS tag that determines where the request is categorized.  Would be very easy to do with a custom component.

Aaron


Korbinian Bachl wrote:
What example do you mean ? - i only found the javadoc
http://wicket.sourceforge.net/apidocs/wicket/protocol/http/RequestLogger.htm
l so far...

what i mean is following: imagine you have a page that sells/ adverts
something  - now you want to know how many visitors you have, on what pages
(what params) they are, how many are doing certain actions or giving up and
on what stage... in classical way, the webserver creates a log where he puts
the URLs, time, IP etc. in which then can be examined by trackingsoftware
like e.g: NetTracker, Webstat etc. - but they wont work with wicket as we
have no classical URLs

hope you now understand what i mean

  
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Gesendet: Samstag, 28. Oktober 2006 11:13
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When you go to the example, there is this little red (i) in 
the top left corner. It'll open a page with all the 
information maintained by RequestLogger.

IResponseFilter and it is implementations might be an 
option/starting point for you as well.

While re-reading your mail, I'm not sure it is what you ask 
for. What information do you get from other web apps in the 
webservers log which you don't get for Wicket apps? Your 
example given, the visitors, can be retrieved, no difference. 
Time to respond, who, when etc, no difference. What you  
won't get is the Page and wicket specific information of course.

I'm not aware of any wiki entry or so, but I might not be 
up-to-date on that.

A base page, as you suggested, might be a good starting 
point, as many relevant information are available. Though 
events (submit, etc.) must be logged differently.

Juergen

On 10/28/06, Korbinian Bachl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
    
you cant point me to any article about that ? - i looked at the 
java-docs for 1.2 branch but didnt understand how this 
      
leads to a hook for tracking.
    
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It is not better and not worse with Wicket, each web app 
        
framework 
    
has the same issue here. Just the details are different.

Have a look at RequestLogger.java

Juergen

On 10/28/06, Korbinian Bachl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
        
Hi,

im not sure how to adress this thing with wicket: if you make a 
website you want to see where your visitor goes, what he does - 
usually by examining the webservers logfile by looking at
          
the URLs -
        
however this wont work in wicket.

How could this be solved ? - how can we track & trace our
          
visitors ?
        
Does anyone know a existing solution (maybe open-source) that 
integrates very easy with wicket ? (perhaps so easy 
          
that putting 
    
it onto a "BasePage" is nearly enough ?)

Best Regards,

Korbinian

PS: i would be happy if this could be done without using the 
session



          
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