well the thing here is expressiveness. the way it is right now was done to
avoid api breaks.

but if you look at the idataprovider - how do you know that you can make the
impl also implement idetachable and that will work? same can be said for
models, why have IModel extend IDetachable? it is so the contract is
explicit.

-igor


On 12/8/06, Johan Compagner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

the question is is this really necessary because we have already code that
does the detach:

"Note that if the IDataProvider implementation implements [EMAIL PROTECTED]
IDetachable}
 * interface, the [EMAIL PROTECTED] IDetachable#detach()} method will be called 
at
the end
 * of request."

So if somebody makes a IDataProvider class if he wants to be detachable
then
just implement IDetachable and you can detach the stuff you load.

So would it be handy that all IDataprovider implementations are detachable

or let it be a choice?

johan


On 12/8/06, Igor Vaynberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> On 12/8/06, Johan Compagner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >
> > shouldn't we extend from IDetachable in 1.3?
>
>
> i dont see a problem with that
>
> -igor
>
>
>
> johan
> >
> >
> > On 12/7/06, Igor Vaynberg < [EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:
> > >
> > > i guess if you are certain the size never changes this works ok
> > >
> > > -igor
> > >
> > >
> > > On 12/7/06, Manuel Barzi < [EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Well, I just do two queries the first time... retrieving total
> > > > count
> > > > on size() call (just once), and then retrieve iteration on
> > > > iterator(...) call (every navigation event)... so, in steady-state
> > > > is
> > > > only one call...
> > > >
> > > > On 12/5/06, Igor Vaynberg < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > > well in the example i gave you there should only be one query to
> > > > the
> > > > > database
> > > > >
> > > > > -igor
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On 12/5/06, Manuel Barzi < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Yes, I have already followed your sample, doing two queries to
> > > > database...
> > > > >  ;)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On 12/5/06, Igor Vaynberg < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > > > > no its not possible there is logic that ties the return call
> > > > of size()
> > > > > to a
> > > > > > > few things that need to happen before the call to iterator()
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > all it takes is your own subclass that i have shown you, i
> > > > dont think
> > > > > its a
> > > > > > > big deal.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > -igor
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On 12/5/06, Manuel Barzi < [EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > My question is, nevertheless, would it be a significant
> > > > implementation
> > > > > > > > change to swap calls order from to current to
> > > > iterator(...) first and
> > > > > > > > size() later? then adding support for both cases in a
> > > > > > > > SortableDataProvider (Case 1: Big databases - 2 Calls,
> > > > Case 2: Small
> > > > > > > > databases - 1 Call)...
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >From my point of view, if supporting both cases, just by
> > > > swapping
> > > > > > > > those method calls (if so easy is it...), then it would be
> > > > great, no
> > > > > > > > worries to look for another impl... all-in-one...
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Just wondering... ;)
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Thank you for all your answers...
> > > > > > > >
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