or detachable models are not used anywhere. And many db objects and its
complete graphs are hold on to.

But stateless support itself won't help for this because then you really
need to use it and use it everywhere.
But the secondlevel cache will keep the session much smaller.

johan


On 1/9/07, Igor Vaynberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

lol, i think you got a wrong number unless you are serializing the servlet
container along with the page somehow :) or the units should be KB instead
of MB

-igor

On 1/8/07, Carfield Yim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I just setup a tool call MessAdmin to check the size of httpsession,
> and I found that single login consume 14.6 MB , well, may be MessAdmin
> give me a wrong number. However, if that is the fact, I think I need
> to find some way to reduce the session memory consumption. If I use
> the stateless support at wicket 1.3, will it reduce the session size a
> lot?
>
> On 1/9/07, Korbinian Bachl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Hi Johan,
> >
> > i dont know much about 1.3, as I never looked at it - but im glad that
> you
> > also see Problems there and rellay want to thank you for your time
> spent on
> > things like that,
> >
> > Regards
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >  ________________________________
> >  Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Im
> > Auftrag von Johan Compagner
> > Gesendet: Montag, 8. Januar 2007 13:38
> >
> > An: wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net
> > Betreff: Re: [Wicket-user] Wicket2 and Wicket 1.2.x
> >
> >
> > But what has this to do with 2.0?
> > 1.3 also has the exact same stateless support as 2.0 so also the same
> > problems
> > And yes the Indexed one is the thing that i still need to fix. Will
> look it
> > as soon as i can.
> >
> > Als that url encoding stuff is also bothering me. We do it now all
> over the
> > place and in all
> > kind of places a bit different. Very confusing.
> >
> > johan
> >
> >
> >
> > On 1/7/07, Korbinian Bachl <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:
> > > I didnt say its alpha.... however, i thought Johan also wants to
> refactory
> > > the way PageParameters and URLs are encoded / decoded as its
> currently not
> > > equal (depends on the mounted-strategy and returns different
> variations
> > e.g:
> > > you get the input in BookMarkablePage but the encoded version in
> > > IndexedURlPageParameter-version)....this is IMHO still a
> > big showstopper as
> > > it disables you to change the mounting strategy on the fly....
> > >
> > > Regards
> > >
> > >
> > > > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> > > > Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] Im
> > Auftrag
> > > > von Eelco Hillenius
> > > > Gesendet: Samstag, 6. Januar 2007 23:31
> > > > An: wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net
> > > > Betreff: Re: [Wicket-user] Wicket2 and Wicket 1.2.x
> > > >
> > > > It is imho not alpha though. We haven't decided on what to
> > > > call the first release of 2.0, but I'd be for beta. Also, I
> > > > think most drastic API changes are done. The last big one
> > > > seems to be the onAttach thing that is discussed on the list
> > > > right now.
> > > >
> > > > Eelco
> > > >
> > > > On 1/6/07, Korbinian Bachl <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:
> > > > > HI,
> > > > >
> > > > > wicket 2.0 is not beta yet ! - there are many api-changes and
> still
> > > > > will be, as many things are on dev list. Also,  even not all
> JUnit
> > > > > tests are passed in current-trunk.
> > > > >
> > > > > regards
> > > > >
> > > > > > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> > > > > > Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ]
> > Im Auftrag von
> > > > > > Ayodeji Aladejebi
> > > > > > Gesendet: Samstag, 6. Januar 2007 18:42
> > > > > > An: wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net
> > > > > > Betreff: Re: [Wicket-user] Wicket2 and Wicket 1.2.x
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ok seen it on the wiki
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On 1/6/07, Ayodeji Aladejebi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > > > > Hey have been seeing lots of questions about Wicket 2.0
> > > > > > probably most
> > > > > > > ppl are already migrating to it even though its still beta.
> > > > > > I am still
> > > > > > > stuck on 1.2.x series cuz am on real live projects based on
> > > > > > 1.2.x. Now
> > > > > > > apart from generics in IModel etc, am I missing anything by
> not
> > > > > > > migrating to 2.0 yet? where can i read about Wicket 2.0coming
> > > > > > > features and changes?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > thanks
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