Let's vote about it then. Eelco
On 2/16/07, Johan Compagner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > People are using snapshots or just from svn (i think most do that because > snapshots > of 1.3 are not really visible yet) > > and when they do an update they get maybe an exception yes but that can > easily be fixed by them > after they report it > > And another thing. Everybody can just develop fine even if you get an error. > The only thing that doesn't work. If one page fails somehow then the only i > really stress here > the ONLY problem they have is that the back button to that page doesn't work > > So telll me what is the problem?? > There isn't any. I can develop fine even when i did get some serializeable > errors. > > The problem is that when it is not tested we never and again i stress we > never will know > what works or what we forgot. And when are we then going to use that as > default? > Never.. because we never can suddenly switch it because it is always in the > same state as it is > now. I only now know one issue and that is the proxy issue i only know this > because > the wicket outputstream it was the default one. If that hadn't be the case i > wouldn't have know. > > So i still want it to be default for some time because just to ask for it > then i am afraid nothing will happen. > > and again i want to stress. there is not really a problem when developing. > You only see maybe > some errors in the log nothing more. Only the back button doesn't work for > the pages that > can't be serialized. thats it. > > johan > > > On 2/16/07, Eelco Hillenius <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > On 2/15/07, Johan Compagner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > thats just stupid > > > IT IS IN SVN ONLY!! > > > > And automatically snapshots. > > > > > so now it will never be finished, never be tested > > > > We provide snapshots for people to use. We don't provide, say, stable > > builds or something similar. In fact we haven't provide a release for > > 1.3 at all even though we've been working on it for months now. So > > that means that the only way people can work on 1.3 is to use those > > snapshots or work directly from CVS. And this exactly what we've asked > > people to do and quite a few people are depending on it for their > > daily development. > > > > We're not just talking about some new component or something here. If > > this stuff isn't done properly it breaks quite a lot. > > > > For this feature we should ASK people to test it for us instead of > > forcing it upon them. You made it the default before you even > > implemented support for all cases! How do you expect people to not get > > pissed off with that? Also, I'm not the king of writing tests, but > > like I've been arguing this is like the mother of all examples of a > > place where we should write tests. > > > > So, what we should do is advocate this new feature - I'll send an > > email about this shortly - ask people to help test this, and when we > > feel good about having this feature the default, let's have a > > developers' vote to see whether everyone agrees. > > > > Eelco > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT > > Join SourceForge.net 's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share > your > > opinions on IT & business topics through brief surveys-and earn cash > > > http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.php&p=sourceforge&CID=DEVDEV > > _______________________________________________ > > Wicket-user mailing list > > Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT > Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your > opinions on IT & business topics through brief surveys-and earn cash > http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.php&p=sourceforge&CID=DEVDEV > _______________________________________________ > Wicket-user mailing list > Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT & business topics through brief surveys-and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.php&p=sourceforge&CID=DEVDEV _______________________________________________ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user
