Hi,Maciej,really? it's so exciting.
we're choosing framework now,and I prefer wicket, but the heavy session is
my care.
but there're some questions:
(1)where you result from? Is the 20,200 reality request and not from
jmeter(or other stress test tool)?
(2)300MB/20,000=15KB,Does it mean only 15KB per session? I think 15KB isn't
enough for only one page.
(3)Would you like give us some experience for so high load web application?

thanks.


Maciej Andreas Bednarz wrote:
> 
> Hello Jeremy,
> 
> try also to disable any versioning and use read only models. I have tuned
> my private wicket project this way and it now supports more than 20.000
> concurrent sessions on a single tomcat server. If everything in your model
> is serializable you can also use tomcats disk or jdbc persistence store
> for sessions. There is also a terracotta project, so you can cluster your
> wicket (1.3) application lineary. My average memory usage with 20.000
> sessions in memory and very complex page structures (multiple including
> page object levels) is about 300MB. I think this could serve even a large
> community site :-)
> 
> Maciej
>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: Igor Vaynberg 
>   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net 
>   Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2007 7:27 AM
>   Subject: Re: [Wicket-user] Sessionless Wicket?
> 
> 
>   detachable models are a must.
> 
>   in my experience a wicket page is only about 50kb on average. that would
> hardly cause an OOME on a server. 1.3 has second level session store that
> pages to disk, so that is something else you might want to try. 
> 
>   once you convert to detachable models oomes should go away.
> 
>   there is an example in wicket-examples on stateless stuff if you need to
> go that far.
> 
>   -igor
> 
> 
> 
> 
>   On 5/2/07, Jeremy Thomerson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>     I know that I read somewhere that there is, or is going to be, a way
> to run your wicket application without creating a session (until
> absolutely necessary).  We have a site that has mostly been converted to
> Wicket now, and almost all of it is state-less data....  The URLs are all
> bookmarkable (98% of them are), so there is not much state to track.  We
> don't need a full object graph of all your pages and components, except
> for on very few pages once you have signed in.  
> 
>     We're experiencing out of memory problems increasingly with an
> increase in traffic.  I'm not holding much in the session, but objects are
> held in pages and components.... I now believe we should have used
> detachable models for many things rather than directly holding a reference
> to a DB-backed object.  Should I start by going back and retrofitting many
> of those private references within components to use detachable models so
> that the objects are not held in memory? 
> 
>     Any other suggestions?
> 
>     Thank you!
>     Jeremy Thomerson
>     texashuntfish.com
> 
> 
> 
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