One more thought:

Since these are large cells and one has inversion and the other not, could it be that due to size-limitations of NMATMAX the complex case (no symmetry) used a much lower RKMAX ? You also should see a WARNING in your total energies.

grep :RKM  case.scf   for the two cases.

On 12/01/2015 08:03 AM, Bruno Landeros wrote:
The first time I generated the Nosymm structure file was by using the 76
posiciones generated by a first symmetric scf calculation (no coordinate
optimization), so the same coordinates where used in both cases.

To be sure, I run again the Nosymm structure file but accepted the new
structfile suggested by the SGROUP program, which detected the corrected
symmetry and this gave the energy I just mentioned here, so in principle
they are equivalent.

Would you like me to send you the case.struct files with the
specifications I gave with init_lapw?

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*Enviado el:* ‎martes‎, ‎1‎ de ‎diciembre‎ de ‎2015 ‎12‎:‎53‎ ‎a. m.
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No. This is a huge E-difference which must come from something very
severe. Did you compare the distances in the 2 case.outputnn file or
compare the structures in xcrysden.

On 12/01/2015 07:37 AM, Bruno Landeros wrote:
 > Dear Peter:
 >
 > Yes, my mistake. First energy (no symmetry) is
 > -5752.55335845 Ry.
 > while second energy is
 > -5752.17735109 Ry.
 >
 > Since cell parameters are note small (12.994513, 25.002400, 17.381701
Bohr)
 > and I was testing convergence I asked for just 1 K point in both cases.
 > May be this the origin of the discrepancy?
 >
 > Greetings,
 >
 > Bruno
 >
 >
 > Enviado desde Correo de Windows
 >
 > *De:* pbl...@theochem.tuwien.ac.at <mailto:pbl...@theochem.tuwien.ac.at>
 > *Enviado el:* ‎martes‎, ‎1‎ de ‎diciembre‎ de ‎2015 ‎12‎:‎16‎ ‎a. m.
 > *Para:* wien@zeus.theochem.tuwien.ac.at
 > <mailto:wien@zeus.theochem.tuwien.ac.at>
 >
 > The energies you posted are identical !
 >
 > Anyway: I hope you did not just copy the case.klist file from the low to
 > the high-symmetry case ??
 >
 > Otherwise: send me your 2 struct files together with the description of
 > the chosen calculational parameters (everything which is non-default) to
 > my private email.
 >
 > Am 01.12.2015 um 03:00 schrieb Bruno Landeros:
 >  > I'm studying a molecular crystal in which two different molecules form
 >  > an 1:1 adduct. There are 2 molecules of each kind (4 in total) in the
 >  > unit cell. There are 19 atoms in the asymmetric unit, and since it
 >  > belongs to the P21/c spacegroup, a total of 76 atoms are contained in
 >  > the unit cell. I was trying to find a possible mistake when
calculating
 >  > interaction energies and I found the next problem:
 >  >
 >  > If I calculate the SCF by manually inserting the 76 positions and
giving
 >  > it a P1 symmetry the energy converged to
 >  > -5752.17735109 Ry.
 >  >
 >  > If I calculate the SCF by inserting the 19 atoms of the asymmetric
unit
 >  > with the correct symmetry and let the program to generate the rest of
 >  > the positions (which where exactly the same as when inserted
manually),
 >  > the same functional,  same RMT, same K points and same convergence
 >  > criteria the energy converged to
 >  > -5752.17735109 Ry.
 >  >
 >  > Transforming the energy difference between the 2 calculations
gives 195
 >  > kcal/mol. The same happened when doing the same for other systems.
 >  >
 >  > My question is, ¿shouldn't I get the same energy in both calculations
 >  > since it's the same system, same coordinates and the input was
prepared
 >  > equally except for the symmetry?
 >  > Since I'm trying to calculate interaction energies using different
 >  > subsystems, some with and some without symmetry, this is a relevant
 >  > question to my research.
 >  >
 >  >
 >  > Greetings,
 >  >
 >  > Bruno L
 >  >
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