you need first to initialize the "low symmetry" structure with the displaced 
and afterwards run the "high" symmetry structure with the atoms placed back (do 
not accept symmetry changes during initialisation). 


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Von: Wien [] im Auftrag von Jameela 
Fatheema []
Gesendet: Montag, 17. Juli 2017 10:11
An: A. Mailing List for WIEN2k Users
Betreff: [Wien] symmetry problem for spontaneous polarization

Dear all,

I am running wien version 14 on ubuntu 16.

The purpose of my calculations is to calculate the spontaneous polarization for 
Bi4Ti3O12 tetragonal structure.

I have followed the steps provided by the wien2k UG and the notes that are 
available on wien2k site. The space group is I4/mmm which genertaes 16 symmetry 
operations for the structure. For the noncentrosymmetric polarization, i 
displace the titanium and oxygen atoms in the z-direction, about 0.005. this 
changes the symmetry to 8 and i get the space group as I4mm. After the total 
polarization for I4mm is obtained i do the steps as mentioned in the notes and 
tutorial available. The problem is how do i avoid this symmetry change because 
as much i understand the symmetry needs to remain the same. If i dont do the 
initialization for the centrosyymetric calculations it shows the ROTDEF error 
in dstart which is due to the symmetry difference.

Should i make the displacement even more smaller?

I will be very thankful for any advice.

Jameela Fatheema
University of Peshawar.

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