Hi,

In principle, mBJ can not be applied to systems with vacuum or an interface (see section "Modified Becke-Johnson potential (mBJ) for band gaps" in the user's guide). An alternative is to use lmBJ as you did, but convergence was not possible. Another possibility is to use mBJ, but by fixing the value of grad(rho)/rho to some (maybe arbitrary) value (see explanations in the UG).

How bad is the convergence with PBE+nlvdw? Are you also trying to relax the structure? Can you show the input files case.in0 and case.innlvdw?


On 26.07.2023 18:35, Burhan Ahmed wrote:
I check the possible ways of converging my system.

        * The system converges with PBE+SO
        * The system converges with TB-mBJ+SO

But

        * The system doesn’t converges lmBJ+SO
        * The system doesn’t converges with PBE+nlvdw

It seems whenever I try to incorporate the van der waals interactions,
the system becomes unstable.

Karnel Type I choose is 1 and the rest default parameters are used.

I am still searching for the possible solution. Hoping for suggestions
from the experts.

Regards

Burhan Ahmed

Research Scholar, AUS

From: Laurence Marks
Sent: Monday, July 24, 2023 3:44 PM
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Subject: Re: [Wien] calculation with lmbj potential

You should look at the BVS, i.e. "grep Bond *tnn" and compare it to
what you have for bulk. You will see that you surface has bad values,
so will be unstable. You need to do a lot more thinking and analysis
(weeks) to find a chemically reasonable surface.

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On Mon, Jul 24, 2023, 05:28 Peter Blaha <peter.bl...@tuwien.ac.at>
wrote:

Yes, R cells are first converted into H (making it already 3 times
larger than the primitive R cell).

The "accepting repeat atoms at z=0" makes the non-stoichiometry. It
leads to 2 identical surfaces and inversion symmetry (cheaper calc),
but
non-stoiciometry.
It is not always clear what the best model for a surface is. Yours is
Te
terminated, but maybe another termination is more favorable (Bi, or
maybe another Te-layer ?)

Am 24.07.2023 um 10:51 schrieb Burhan Ahmed:
The 6ql slab is created with 1x1x2 supercell with vacuum in Z
direction
and accepting repeat atoms at z=0 (using x supercell program). At
first
the x supercell convert rhombohedral cell into hexagonal and then
from
hexagonal cell I have created the 1x1x2 supercell and then I took
the
structure suggested by sgroup.

Yes sorry for that I have used MSR1a method for the relaxation.

The force convergence is set to 1 Ry.

On Mon, 24 Jul, 2023, 2:06 pm Peter Blaha, <peter.bl...@tuwien.ac.at

<mailto:peter.bl...@tuwien.ac.at>> wrote:

    I'm not sure how you get a non-stoichimetric cell with a
multiplicative
    number of unit cells, unless you said you want to repeat the
atom at
    z=0.
    Of course, without this extra layer, you may not have inversion
and get
    2 different surface terminations in one calculation. This is the
usual
    problem of slabs.
    Also symmetry will be reduced and "multiplicity" errors occur.
But
    both,
    nn and sgroup create new struct files where this has been
corrected.

    If possible, I would also go to a smaller number of layers.


    Am 24.07.2023 um 10:13 schrieb Burhan Ahmed:
     > That is very true. I made the slab using the tutorial
available
    in the
     > wien2k user manual by executing x-supercell program. What I
found is
     > that the 6ql supercell consist of an extra Te atom. But
whenever
    I try
     > to remove this atom I got multiplicity error. Sir, what is
best
    possible
     > way of making slab with vacuum or surfaces??
     >
     > Thanks
     >
     > Regards
     >
     > Burhan Ahmed
     >
     > *Research Scholar, AUS *
     >
     > *From: *Laurence Marks <mailto:laurence.ma...@gmail.com
    <mailto:laurence.ma...@gmail.com>>
     > *Sent: *Saturday, July 22, 2023 6:30 PM
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     > <mailto:wien@zeus.theochem.tuwien.ac.at
    <mailto:wien@zeus.theochem.tuwien.ac.at>>
     > *Subject: *Re: [Wien] calculation with lmbj potential
     >
     > Others will probably give you suggestions about converging
mBJ. Some
     > deeper comments.
     >
     > The most common reason that calculations behave badly is user
error.
     > Sometimes this is doing the initialization wrong, often it is
    creating
     > an inappropriate model. Just because one can use x supercell
or
    related
     > codes to create atomic positions does /not/ make them
sensible.
     >
     > Your slab has a composition Bi12 Te19, i.e. it is Te rich.
You
    therefore
     > have a reduced, n-type semiconductor with a small gap (about
0.1eV)
     > which will behave badly. If you look at your BVS you will see
    that atom
     > Te7 is severely underco-ordinated (unstable).
     >
     > I doubt that your slab will ever converge to anything which
    should be
     > published. Surfaces are not simple, it is unfortunately too
easy
    to set
     > something up and get it wrong. (There are many papers in the
    literature
     > of dubious merit.)
     >
     > On Fri, Jul 21, 2023 at 10:47 PM Burhan Ahmed
    <burhan.ah...@aus.ac.in <mailto:burhan.ah...@aus.ac.in>
     > <mailto:burhan.ah...@aus.ac.in
<mailto:burhan.ah...@aus.ac.in>>>
    wrote:
     >
     >     Dear experts, I am doing an scf calculation taking lmbj
    potential.
     >     My system is a slab of 6ql with a vacuum of 40 ang along
c-axix.
     >     Whenever I try to run the scf calculation including SOC,
    after 999
     >     iteration the scf is still not converged. I have analyzed
the scf
     >     file, it shows the fluctuating nature. At first the
selected
    Rmt was
     >     2.5 then I reduces it to 2.34 and again convergence
failed
    after 999
     >     cycle. I have included -hdlo and -lvns 8 switch in
init_lapw
    as it
     >     shows heavy atom. I am attaching the case.struct file.
Hoping for
     >     any suggestion/solution.
     >
     >     Regards
     >
     >     Burhan Ahmed
     >
     >     *Research Scholar, AUS *
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