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Best, F --- El lun, 17/11/08, Felipe Ortega <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escribió: > De: Felipe Ortega <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Asunto: Re: [Wiki-research-l] "Regular contributor" > Para: "Research into Wikimedia content and communities" > <[email protected]>, "Desilets, Alain" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Fecha: lunes, 17 noviembre, 2008 3:02 > Sure, we have started a great migration of our website, so > the old > links does not work, yet. > > You can grab it from here: > > http://gsyc.es/~jfelipe/tmp/Ineq_Wikipedia.pdf > > Best. > > F. > > > --- El lun, 17/11/08, Desilets, Alain > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escribió: > > > De: Desilets, Alain > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Asunto: RE: [Wiki-research-l] "Regular > contributor" > > Para: [EMAIL PROTECTED], "Research into > Wikimedia content and communities" > <[email protected]> > > Fecha: lunes, 17 noviembre, 2008 2:36 > > Thx. Do you have the URL, or title? I can't find > it on > > the web. > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Felipe Ortega > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Sent: November 15, 2008 12:43 PM > > > To: Research into Wikimedia content and > communities; > > Desilets, Alain > > > Subject: RE: [Wiki-research-l] "Regular > > contributor" > > > > > > --- El vie, 14/11/08, Desilets, Alain > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > escribió: > > > > > > > De: Desilets, Alain > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > Asunto: RE: [Wiki-research-l] "Regular > > contributor" > > > > Para: [EMAIL PROTECTED], > "Research > > into Wikimedia content and > > > > communities" > > <[email protected]> > > > > Fecha: viernes, 14 noviembre, 2008 2:32 > Regarding > > this, I have had > > > > heard different stories about contributors. > > > > > > > > I seem to recall one study that concluded > that, > > while 85% of the > > > > **edits** are done by a small core of > > contributors, if you take a > > > > random page and select a sentence from it, > this > > sentence is more > > > > likely to be the result of edits by > contributors > > from the "long tail" > > > > than core contributors. I forget the > reference > > for that study though. > > > > > > > > Does someone on this list have solid > information > > about this? I think > > > > it's a fairly crucial piece of > information > > that we should have a > > > clear > > > > handle on as a research community. > > > > > > > > > > Hi, Alain. Yes, the study is by Aaron Schwartz. > It was > > a base premise > > > in our last paper at HICSS 08, comparing his > statement > > to the theory of > > > Jimmy Wales about the core of very active users. > > > > > > Actually, both are right (more or less :) ). If > you > > look at it from the > > > "per_user" perspective, the core can be > > identified very precisely. > > > > > > But your question is focused on > > "per_article" statistics. It's logical > > > to expect so, since the distribution of distinct > > authors per article > > > follows a stepped power-law, and you have a lot > of > > articles in the > > > larger editions. If you pick an article at > random, > > chances are that you > > > will, most probably, pick one with few editors. > > > > > > Best, > > > > > > Felipe. > > > > > > > Alain > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > From: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > [mailto:wiki- > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > On > > Behalf Of > > > > Felipe Ortega > > > > > Sent: November 13, 2008 5:33 PM > > > > > To: Research into Wikimedia content and > > communities > > > > > Subject: Re: [Wiki-research-l] > "Regular > > > > contributor" > > > > > > > > > > You have a very similar effect in > larger > > Wikipedias. > > > > In those ones, > > > > > there is no very active, "single > > bus"-like > > > > contributor, but a core of > > > > > very active users concentrating about > 85% of > > the total > > > > number of edits > > > > > per month. > > > > > > > > > > It seems that in these languages, > though, > > there is a > > > > generational relay > > > > > in which new active users jump into the > core > > to > > > > substitute those who > > > > > eventually give up, for any reason. So, > the > > > > concentration becomes > > > > > stable after a couple of years (aprox.) > and > > the > > > > encyclopedia is able to > > > > > continue growing. > > > > > > > > > > Best. > > > > > > > > > > F. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- El jue, 23/10/08, Gerard Meijssen > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > escribió: > > > > > > > > > > > De: Gerard Meijssen > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > Asunto: Re: [Wiki-research-l] > > "Regular > > > > contributor" > > > > > > Para: "Research into > Wikimedia > > content and > > > > communities" > > > > > > > > <[email protected]> > > > > > > Fecha: jueves, 23 octubre, 2008 > 10:27 > > Hoi, I missed that this was > > > > > > the research mailing > > > > list.. my fault. > > > > > > Consequently my answer was not > > appropriate. With > > > > this in mind, it is > > > > > > interesting to learn how the > spread is > > in > > > > particularly the smaller > > > > > > projects. In my opinion there must > be a > > certain > > > > amount of productive > > > > > > people in order to get to a > community > > that does > > > > not have one person > > > > > > who is the "bus factor". > > > > > > > > > > > > Having someone who drives the bus > is > > really > > > > important. I wonder how > > > > > > you can point this person out. I > think > > that > > > > someone who is just > > > > > > editing is important but it is not > all > > that > > > > builds a community. > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > GerardM > > > > > > > > > > > > On the Volapuk wikipedia Smeira > was > > really > > > > important. When he left, I > > > > > > understand that activity > collapsed. > > > > > > > > > > > > 2008/10/22 phoebe ayers > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2008/10/21 Gerard Meijssen > > > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> Hoi, > > > > > > >> When you divide people up > in > > groups, > > > > when you > > > > > > single out the ones "most > > > > > > >> valuable", you in > effect > > divide the > > > > > > community. Whatever you base your > > > > > > >> metrics on, there will be > > sound > > > > arguments to deny > > > > > > the point of view. When it > > > > > > >> is about the number of > edits, > > it is > > > > clear to the > > > > > > pure encyclopedistas that > > > > > > >> most of the policy wonks > have > > not > > > > supported what > > > > > > is the "real" aim of the > > > > > > >> project. > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> When you label groups of > > people, you > > > > divide them > > > > > > and it is exactly the > > > > > > >> egalitarian aspect that > makes > > the > > > > community > > > > > > thrive. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But this isn't about > labeling > > people for > > > > the rest > > > > > > of time and saying that > > > > > > > this is how they are defined > *on > > Wikipedia* > > > > -- > > > > > > it's about saying how do you > > > > > > > study people who regularly > > contribute to > > > > Wikipedia, > > > > > > and as a part of that > > > > > > > how do you define the group > that > > you are > > > > studying, > > > > > > which is an important > > > > > > > question for any research > study. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Given that it's > impossible to > > study > > > > every > > > > > > contributor to the project in > > > > > > > every study, and since many > > researchers are > > > > interested > > > > > > in why people who > > > > > > > spend a lot of time or effort > > working on > > > > Wikipedia do > > > > > > so (and what exactly > > > > > > > it is they do), this is a > very > > relevant > > > > question for > > > > > > this list. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --phoebe > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > > Wiki-research-l mailing list > > > > > > > > > [email protected] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wiki-research-l > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > Wiki-research-l mailing list > > > > > > > [email protected] > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wiki-research-l > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > Wiki-research-l mailing list > > > > > [email protected] > > > > > > > > > > > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wiki-research-l > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Wiki-research-l mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wiki-research-l _______________________________________________ Wiki-research-l mailing list [email protected] https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wiki-research-l
