Maybe this can be a good discussion to have in person at WikiSym, in the open space or perhaps the Wikipedia Research Summit on the 7th! http://wikisym.org/ws2010/Wikipedia+Research+Summit
Even if you're not attending, feel free to add to that page... I'd like to follow on from last year's very productive discussion. -- phoebe On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 8:18 AM, Jodi Schneider <[email protected]> wrote: > Thanks Samuel, > I think it would be great to have more citation tracking in Wikimedia > projects! The projects you mention were new to me, but they're quite related > to my own research in argumentation, and coming out of the library > community, for me, citation analysis is second nature! > > http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WikiTextrose > http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikicite > > Have you run into AcaWiki? It's conceived of as a "Wikipedia for academic > research" and uses CC-BY and Semantic MediaWiki: > http://www.acawiki.org/ > AcaWiki focuses more on summarizing articles than on linking their citations > together.There is a BibTeX importer -- which could be adapted for use in > other MediaWiki installations (one of the desired parts of that project). > It's a useful place to gather summaries for generals and other reading-based > exams--for instance here's Benjamin Mako Hill's collection: > http://acawiki.org/User:Benjamin_Mako_Hill/Generals > I used to work with AcaWiki, and would love any feedback on the site > (offlist). > It was interesting to hear of BibDex! > http://www.bibdex.com/ > I'll definitely take a closer look. > One possibility would be to draw on existing projects which are already > documenting sources, particularly in confusing and problematic areas, where > "good source" is not obvious or well-understood. > For instance, on English Wikipedia, the WikiProject video games has a > guideline on sources, documenting particular websites that are and are not > reliable: > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Video_games/Sources > WikiProject Japan has documented offline resources recommended for the > project: > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Japan/Reference_library > These projects are far from alone, as a search will show: > http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Search&redirs=1&search=sources+wikiproject > If you want to get Wikicite and WikiTextrose going again -- or others are > proposed as Brian mentions -- I'd like to be involved. > > ...recently submitted a project proposal to the Foundation along the > lines of community documentation of scientific (and other) sources. > > So, let me know how I can contribute. > :) -Jodi > On 22 Jun 2010, at 00:38, Samuel Klein wrote: > > The idea is to have a wiki-project with an entry for every cited > source, author, and publication -- including critical secondary > sources that exist only to comment on sources/authors/publications. > > Aggregate information about the reliability of these sources, where > they are used, how they are discussed and linked together. > > http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WikiTextrose > http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikicite > > The "wikitextrose" proposal aims to gather data about these types of > sources, and links between them. > > The "wikicite" proposal aims to organize citable statements on other > wiki projects so that one can trace the origins of the idea expressed > back to sources. > > SJ > > > On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 5:51 AM, Jodi Schneider <[email protected]> > wrote: > > Samuel, > > This is great! > > What's the idea for a WikiCite project? > > -Jodi > > On 20 Jun 2010, at 22:44, Samuel Klein wrote: > > Some motivation for a proper WikiCite project. --sj > > > =============== Begin forwarded message ================== > > "How citation distortions create unfounded authority: analysis of a > > citation network" > > http://www.bmj.com/cgi/content/full/339/jul20_3/b2680 > > > Abstract: > > Objective -To understand belief in a specific scientific claim by > > studying the pattern of citations among papers stating it. > > Design - A complete citation network was constructed from all PubMed > > indexed English literature papers addressing the belief that \u03b2 > > amyloid, a protein accumulated in the brain in Alzheimer\u2019s > > disease, is produced by and injures skeletal muscle of patients with > > inclusion body myositis. Social network theory and graph theory were > > used to analyse this network. > > Main outcome measures - Citation bias, amplification, and invention, > > and their effects on determining authority. > > Results: > > The network contained 242 papers and 675 citations addressing the > > belief, with 220 553 citation paths supporting it. Unfounded authority > > was established by citation bias against papers that refuted or > > weakened the belief; amplification, the marked expansion of the belief > > system by papers presenting no data addressing it; and forms of > > invention such as the conversion of hypothesis into fact through > > citation alone. Extension of this network into text within grants > > funded by the National Institutes of Health > > and obtained through the Freedom of Information Act showed the same > > phenomena present and sometimes used to justify requests for funding. > > Conclusion: > > Citation is both an impartial scholarly method and a powerful form of > > social communication. Through distortions in its social use that > > include bias, amplification, and invention, citation can be used to > > generate > > information cascades resulting in unfounded authority of claims. > > Construction and analysis of a claim specific citation network may > > clarify the nature of a published belief system and expose distorted > > methods of social citation. > > > > > -- > > Samuel Klein identi.ca:sj w:user:sj > > > > -- > > Samuel Klein identi.ca:sj w:user:sj > > _______________________________________________ > > Wiki-research-l mailing list > > [email protected] > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wiki-research-l > > > _______________________________________________ > > Wiki-research-l mailing list > > [email protected] > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wiki-research-l > > > > > -- > Samuel Klein identi.ca:sj w:user:sj > > _______________________________________________ > Wiki-research-l mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wiki-research-l > > > _______________________________________________ > Wiki-research-l mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wiki-research-l > > -- * I use this address for lists; send personal messages to phoebe.ayers <at> gmail.com * _______________________________________________ Wiki-research-l mailing list [email protected] https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wiki-research-l
