On 22 Jul 2010, at 21:00, Jakob wrote:

> Jodi Schneider wrote:
> 
>> Interesting. I'd really like ID's to be not only comprehensible but  
>> also to have a fair chance of being directly inputtable by humans.
> 
> Usual bibliographic catalogs do not provide a mnemonic key as soon as  
> their size is more then a few hundred entries. There are various IDs  
> like ISBN and OCLC number but there is no large-scale system that has  
> simple identifiers. Why do you want to type in the ID by hand anyway?  
> What is the use-case?

I am looking up a paper that is cited somewhere else. 
> 
>> For instance, on Wikipedia, if I know that I am looking for the  
>> article on "citation signals" I can type the URL directly, without  
>> searching.
>> 
>> In my ideal citation-wiki-in-the-sky, you could get to the citation  
>> directly in this way -- and sensible disambiguation pages would be  
>> automatically generated.
> 
> Why do you want to directly work with fragile identifiers? Every  
> modern web application provides auto-suggest: you type in a keyword,  
> title, author, anything and get a list of publications and a link to  
> create a new one.

Sure, that's fine, too. That's a kind of automatic disambiguation -- and better 
than what I proposed.

> Then you select a publication from the list and its  
> ID gets copied into your editor (an ideal editor would also send a  
> pingback to the citation database to know where a publication  
> identifier is used). Done.

um, sometimes the 'editor' is my brain, not software.

> 
> I also like mnemonic identifiers, they are useful if you have to read,  
> memorize and type in them. But if your workflow is truly digital then  
> their limitation is just a burden. I would value uniqueness and  
> stability much more then readability - and you cannot get both!

Another reason to optimize readability is SEO. But you're right, it depends 
very much on who is using this, and how.

:) -Jodi

> 
> Cheers
> Jakob

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