I agree with Kerry that computer text offers a narrow pipe through which we can 
barely come to know and trust other. That is why in developing Extreme 
Programming (a kind of Agile) we asked that the whole team, including clients 
and management, meet daily in person, preferably working together in the same 
room. I didn't believe it was strictly required but it sure did simplify other 
changes we were making.

As I've come to know more about successful open-source communities I'm struck 
by how similar our basic values are (read the code, for example) while our 
attitude towards physical presence couldn't be more opposite. Do not, I was 
told, ever make a decision while meeting in person. To do so would 
disenfranchise most of the earth. Even when one came to some insight in a 
personal conversation they have the obligation to recapitulate the discussion 
online in text. Wow. That's real work.

The agile and open source movements now share many practices. One commonly 
repeated observation is that distributed teams work, even for agile, but remote 
workers trying to keep up with a co-located team doesn't. 

I suspect that a fruitful inquiry into editor retention and meetups will need 
to analyze the nature of decisions made during meetups and the degree that this 
disenfranchises new and remote contributors. 

Aside: When I ran off-site retrospectives I made 10-minute videos which I sent 
to the team members who couldn't be present. At every break I asked a different 
person to say in a minute or two what had been discussed and what decisions 
made. I tightened these up over night and sent out video the next morning. I 
had no way to assess the value to our remote teams but I will say that we 
really enjoyed watching the videos together with our new employees at 
subsequent retrospective.



On Nov 19, 2012, at 2:31 PM, Kerry Raymond wrote:

> In WP, you are denied just about every clue that you rely on in interacting 
> with other people, so very piece of “emotional intelligence” goes out the 
> window.

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