Hi Samuel, thanks for your kind words. I'm going to contact you to create
the account. Your experience in so many open-knowledge projects would be
helpful!


2013/8/4 Samuel Klein <[email protected]>

> Hi, awesome to see thid move forward.  This is solving a major namespace
> style problem (for the namespace of queries) and I fully support it.  Good
> luck with the work and I would love to help test the beta.
>
> Sam.
> On Aug 4, 2013 12:24 AM, "Emilio J. Rodríguez-Posada" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi all again;
>>
>> After some months, we have the domain for LibreFind[1] and some usable
>> results[2][3] (the bot is running). Also, there is a mailing list[4] and a
>> Google Code project[5].
>>
>> I would like you can join the brainstorm. We need to establish some
>> policies about how to sort results, bots to check dead links, crawlers to
>> improve the results, and many more. You can request an account for the
>> closed beta.
>>
>> Thanks for your time,
>> emijrp
>>
>> [1] http://www.librefind.org
>> [2] http://www.librefind.org/wiki/Spain
>> [3] http://www.librefind.org/wiki/Edgar_Allan_Poe
>> [4] http://groups.google.com/group/librefind
>> [5] https://code.google.com/p/librefind/
>>
>> 2012/10/27 emijrp <[email protected]>
>>
>>> After some tests and usability improvements, I'm going to launch an
>>> English alpha version.
>>>
>>> I still need a cool name for the project, any idea?
>>>
>>> Stay tunned.
>>>
>>>
>>> 2012/10/23 emijrp <[email protected]>
>>>
>>>> Yes, there are some options: (semi)protections, blocks, spam black
>>>> lists, flaggedrevs, abuse filter and some more. All them are well known
>>>> MediaWiki features and extensions.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for your interest.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 2012/10/23 ENWP Pine <[email protected]>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I agree that this sounds like an interesting experiment. I hope that
>>>>> you get good faith editors. I worry that you’ll get COI editors playing
>>>>> with the search rankings. Do you have a way in mind to deal with that 
>>>>> issue?
>>>>>
>>>>> Pine
>>>>>
>>>>>  *From:* emijrp <[email protected]>
>>>>> *Sent:* Monday, 22 October, 2012 08:29
>>>>> *To:* Research into Wikimedia content and 
>>>>> communities<[email protected]>
>>>>> *Subject:* [Wiki-research-l] A wiki search engine
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi all;
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm starting a new project, a wiki search engine. It uses MediaWiki,
>>>>> Semantic MediaWiki and other minor extensions, and some tricky templates
>>>>> and bots.
>>>>>
>>>>> I remember Wikia Search and how it failed. It had the mini-article
>>>>> thingy for the introduction, and then a lot of links compiled by a 
>>>>> crawler.
>>>>> Also something similar to a social network.
>>>>>
>>>>> My project idea (which still needs a cool name) is different.
>>>>> Althought it uses an introduction and images copied from Wikipedia, and
>>>>> some links from the "External links" sections, it is only a start. The
>>>>> purpose is that community adds, removes and orders the results for each
>>>>> term, and creates redirects for similar terms to avoid duplicates.
>>>>>
>>>>> Why this? I think that Google PageRank isn't enough. It is frequently
>>>>> abused by farmlinks, SEOs and other people trying to put their websites
>>>>> above.
>>>>>
>>>>> Search "Shakira" in Google for example. You see 1) Official site, 2)
>>>>> Wikipedia 3) Twitter 4) Facebook, then some videos, some news, some 
>>>>> images,
>>>>> Myspace. It wastes 3 or more results in obvious nice sites (WP, TW, FB).
>>>>> The wiki search engine puts these sites in the top, and an introduction 
>>>>> and
>>>>> related terms, leaving all the space below to not so obvious but
>>>>> interesting websites. Also, if you search for "semantic queries" like
>>>>> "right-wing newspapers" in Google, you won't find real newspapers but
>>>>> "people and sites discussing about ring-wing newspapers". Or latex and
>>>>> LaTeX being shown in the same results pages. These issues can be resolved
>>>>> with disambiguation result pages.
>>>>>
>>>>> How we choose which results are above or below? The rules are not
>>>>> fully designed yet, but we can put official sites in the first place, then
>>>>> .gov or .edu domains which are important ones, and later unofficial
>>>>> websites, blogs, giving priority to local language, etc. And reaching
>>>>> consensus.
>>>>>
>>>>> We can control aggresive spam with spam blacklists, semi-protect or
>>>>> protect highly visible pages, and use bots or tools to check changes.
>>>>>
>>>>> It obviously has a CC BY-SA license and results can be exported. I
>>>>> think that this approach is the opposite to Google today.
>>>>>
>>>>> For weird queries like "Albert Einstein birthplace" we can redirect to
>>>>> the most obvious results page (in this case Albert Einstein) using a
>>>>> hand-made redirect or by software (some little change in MediaWiki).
>>>>>
>>>>> You can check a pretty alpha version here http://www.todogratix.es(only 
>>>>> Spanish by now sorry) which I'm feeding with some bots.
>>>>>
>>>>> I think that it is an interesting experiment. I'm open to your
>>>>> questions and feedback.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> emijrp
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Emilio J. Rodríguez-Posada. E-mail: emijrp AT gmail DOT com
>>>>> Pre-doctoral student at the University of Cádiz (Spain)
>>>>> Projects: AVBOT <http://code.google.com/p/avbot/> | 
>>>>> StatMediaWiki<http://statmediawiki.forja.rediris.es>
>>>>> | WikiEvidens <http://code.google.com/p/wikievidens/> | 
>>>>> WikiPapers<http://wikipapers.referata.com>
>>>>> | WikiTeam <http://code.google.com/p/wikiteam/>
>>>>> Personal website: https://sites.google.com/site/emijrp/
>>>>>
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>>>> --
>>>> Emilio J. Rodríguez-Posada. E-mail: emijrp AT gmail DOT com
>>>> Pre-doctoral student at the University of Cádiz (Spain)
>>>> Projects: AVBOT <http://code.google.com/p/avbot/> | 
>>>> StatMediaWiki<http://statmediawiki.forja.rediris.es>
>>>> | WikiEvidens <http://code.google.com/p/wikievidens/> | 
>>>> WikiPapers<http://wikipapers.referata.com>
>>>> | WikiTeam <http://code.google.com/p/wikiteam/>
>>>> Personal website: https://sites.google.com/site/emijrp/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Emilio J. Rodríguez-Posada. E-mail: emijrp AT gmail DOT com
>>> Pre-doctoral student at the University of Cádiz (Spain)
>>> Projects: AVBOT <http://code.google.com/p/avbot/> | 
>>> StatMediaWiki<http://statmediawiki.forja.rediris.es>
>>> | WikiEvidens <http://code.google.com/p/wikievidens/> | 
>>> WikiPapers<http://wikipapers.referata.com>
>>> | WikiTeam <http://code.google.com/p/wikiteam/>
>>> Personal website: https://sites.google.com/site/emijrp/
>>>
>>>
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