Actually, belay that, I have a pretty good idea. I'll fire the log parser
up now.


On 20 May 2014 01:21, Oliver Keyes <[email protected]> wrote:

> I think a *lot* of them use the API, but I don't know off the top of my
> head if it's *all* of them. If only we knew somebody who has spent the
> last 3 months staring into the cthulian nightmare of our request logs and
> could look this up...
>
> More seriously; drop me a note off-list so that I can try to work out
> precisely what you need me to find out, and I'll write a quick-and-dirty
> parser of our sampled logs to drag the answer kicking and screaming into
> the light.
>
> (sorry, it's annual review season. That always gets me blithe.)
>
>
> On 19 May 2014 13:03, Scott Hale <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Thanks all for the comments on my paper, and even more thanks to everyone
>> sharing these super helpful ideas on filtering bots: this is why I love the
>> Wikipedia research committee.
>>
>> I think Oliver is definitely right that
>>
>>>  this would be a useful topic for some piece of method-comparing
>>> research, if anyone is looking for paper ideas.
>>
>> "Citation goldmine" as one friend called it, I think.
>>
>> This won't address edit logs to date, but do  we know if most bots and
>> automated tools use the API to make edits? If so, would it be feasibility
>> to add a flag to each edit as to whether it came through the API or not.
>> This won't stop determined users, but might be a nice way to identify
>> cyborg edits from those made manually by the same user for many of the
>> standard tools going forward.
>>
>> The closest thing I found in the bug tracker is [1], but it doesn't
>> address the issue of 'what is a bot' which this thread has clearly shown is
>> quite complex. An API-edit vs. non-API edit might be a way forward unless
>> there are automated tools/bots that don't use the API.
>>
>>
>> 1. https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11181
>>
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Scott
>>
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