In light of the editor retention problem, I suggest we have to be very
careful with any kind of "plagiarism detector" software because we have real
subject matter experts among our editors. I'm aware of members of local
history societies who have had issues with copyright violation because they
have content on their own websites which they then contribute to Wikipedia.
It's not a copyright violation because it's their own work, but it was
deleted, they were accused of copyright violation and they were naturally
very unhappy about both. Being new users they did not know any way to get
this redressed, they asked me for help and I got nowhere with the editor who
deleted the material who would not accept their assertion that they were the
original authors (how on earth could they prove it?). As a result, none of
them are now active editors. Having had a whole bunch of my own images
nearly deleted from Commons because they appear on my own website (despite
my user name being my real name and my real name is all over my website), I
know how they feel about having accusations of copyright violation all over
your contributions - it's really offensive. Strangely we have no way to
whitelist particular websites in relation to particular users (in theory,
you'd want to be able to whitelist books and off-line resources too but in
practice "copies" from these are far less likely to be noticed), so the same
problem can arise again and again for an individual contributor.

 

So I would be very hesitant about putting any visible tag on an article
suggesting it was a copyright violation (as it seems to me it is both
offensive and potentially libellous to the editor who has in good faith
contributed their own work). I think any concern about copyright has to be
first raised with the editor involved as a question NOT an accusation. And I
note that it is often very difficult to communicate with new/occasional
editors as they often have no email address associated with their account
and they don't see talk page message banners unless they are remember-me
logged-in. It's ironic that at a time a contributor is most likely to
want/need help, we are in the worst position to know they want it or offer
it if we see they need it. 

 

So, I'm with Jane on this one. It's easy enough to detect a lot of potential
copyright violations automatically. What's hard and very much a manual task
is confirming it really is a copyright violation and, where required,
educating the contributor. I think there's a real danger to automating the
first part without a good solution to the second part. We have far too many
editors who use tools as weapons already, so I am reluctant to give them
more weapons.

 

Kerry

 

 

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