Communities are who they choose to offer plaudits to. The people getting off largely scott-free in this case are people a highly vocal subgroup has put on a pedestal for years. I don't know if the community as a whole is that ugly and bitter, but I can understand where people would get the impression, from looking at the sort of person we celebrate.
On Monday, 15 December 2014, WereSpielChequers <werespielchequ...@gmail.com> wrote: > We have problems, I don't dispute that. But "ugly and bitter as 4chan"? > That has to be an exaggeration. > > Regards > > Jonathan Cardy > > > On 13 Dec 2014, at 01:03, Andrew Lih <andrew....@gmail.com > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','andrew....@gmail.com');>> wrote: > > I certainly hope you're right Sydney. What a horrible mess. > > > On Fri, Dec 12, 2014 at 5:53 PM, Sydney Poore <sydney.po...@gmail.com > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','sydney.po...@gmail.com');>> wrote: >> >> I think feminists, especially those who take an interest in STEM, will >> pass this article around. >> >> Sydney >> On Dec 12, 2014 5:35 PM, "Andrew Lih" <andrew....@gmail.com >> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','andrew....@gmail.com');>> wrote: >> >>> It's a good piece, but honestly I think only the dedicated tech reader >>> will make it through the entire story. There's a lot of jargon and insider >>> intrigue such that I could imagine most people never making past the >>> typewriter barf of "BLP, AGF, NOR" :) >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Dec 12, 2014 at 5:26 PM, Dariusz Jemielniak <dar...@alk.edu.pl >>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','dar...@alk.edu.pl');>> wrote: >>> >>>> While I agree that the article is overly negative (likely because of >>>> the individual experience), I think it still points to an important >>>> problem. I don't perceive this article as really problematic in terms of >>>> image. Maybe naively, I imagine that people will not stop donating because >>>> the community is not ideal. >>>> >>>> pundit >>>> >>>> On Fri, Dec 12, 2014 at 11:16 PM, Kerry Raymond < >>>> kerry.raym...@gmail.com >>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','kerry.raym...@gmail.com');>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> There’s a saying that everyone likes to eat sausages but nobody >>>>> likes to know how they are made. It is not good to have negative >>>>> publicity >>>>> like that during the annual donation campaign (irrespective of the >>>>> motivations of the journalist and/or the rights/wrongs of the issue being >>>>> reported, neither of which I intend to debate here). As a donation-funded >>>>> organisation, public perception matters a lot. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Kerry >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>> >>>>> *From:* Jonathan Morgan [mailto:jmor...@wikimedia.org >>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','jmor...@wikimedia.org');>] >>>>> *Sent:* Saturday, 13 December 2014 6:43 AM >>>>> *To:* Research into Wikimedia content and communities >>>>> *Cc:* Kerry Raymond >>>>> *Subject:* Re: [Wiki-research-l] commentary on Wikipedia's community >>>>> behaviour (Aaron gets a quote) >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I mostly agree. On one hand, it's always nice to see a detailed >>>>> description of how wiki-sausage gets made in a major venue. On the other, >>>>> this journalist clearly has a personal axe to grind, and used his bully >>>>> pulpit to grind it in public. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> - J >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, Dec 12, 2014 at 1:39 AM, Federico Leva (Nemo) < >>>>> nemow...@gmail.com >>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','nemow...@gmail.com');>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> 1000th addition to the inconsequential rant genre. >>>>> >>>>> Nemo >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Wiki-research-l mailing list >>>>> Wiki-research-l@lists.wikimedia.org >>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','Wiki-research-l@lists.wikimedia.org');> >>>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wiki-research-l >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> >>>>> Jonathan T. Morgan >>>>> >>>>> Community Research Lead >>>>> >>>>> Wikimedia Foundation >>>>> >>>>> User:Jmorgan (WMF) >>>>> <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Jmorgan_(WMF)> >>>>> >>>>> jmor...@wikimedia.org >>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','jmor...@wikimedia.org');> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Wiki-research-l mailing list >>>>> Wiki-research-l@lists.wikimedia.org >>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','Wiki-research-l@lists.wikimedia.org');> >>>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wiki-research-l >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> >>>> __________________________ >>>> prof. dr hab. Dariusz Jemielniak >>>> kierownik katedry Zarządzania Międzynarodowego >>>> i centrum badawczego CROW >>>> Akademia Leona Koźmińskiego >>>> http://www.crow.alk.edu.pl >>>> >>>> członek Akademii Młodych Uczonych Polskiej Akademii Nauk >>>> członek Komitetu Polityki Naukowej MNiSW >>>> >>>> Wyszła pierwsza na świecie etnografia Wikipedii "Common Knowledge? An >>>> Ethnography of Wikipedia" (2014, Stanford University Press) mojego >>>> autorstwa http://www.sup.org/book.cgi?id=24010 >>>> >>>> Recenzje >>>> Forbes: http://www.forbes.com/fdc/welcome_mjx.shtml >>>> Pacific Standard: >>>> http://www.psmag.com/navigation/books-and-culture/killed-wikipedia-93777/ >>>> Motherboard: >>>> http://motherboard.vice.com/read/an-ethnography-of-wikipedia >>>> The Wikipedian: >>>> http://thewikipedian.net/2014/10/10/dariusz-jemielniak-common-knowledge >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Wiki-research-l mailing list >>>> Wiki-research-l@lists.wikimedia.org >>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','Wiki-research-l@lists.wikimedia.org');> >>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wiki-research-l >>>> >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Wiki-research-l mailing list >>> Wiki-research-l@lists.wikimedia.org >>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','Wiki-research-l@lists.wikimedia.org');> >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wiki-research-l >>> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wiki-research-l mailing list >> Wiki-research-l@lists.wikimedia.org >> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','Wiki-research-l@lists.wikimedia.org');> >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wiki-research-l >> >> _______________________________________________ > Wiki-research-l mailing list > Wiki-research-l@lists.wikimedia.org > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','Wiki-research-l@lists.wikimedia.org');> > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wiki-research-l > > -- Sent from my mobile computing device of Lovecraftian complexity and horror.
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