On 2 January 2015 at 18:14, James Salsman <jsals...@gmail.com> wrote:

> >... This is not a discussion for research-l
>
> On the contrary, please see e.g.
> http://www.wikisym.org/os2014-files/proceedings/p609.pdf
> this Foundation-sponsored IEG effort can serve as a confirmatory
> replication of that prior work.
>

Let me rephrase, because I evidently wasn't clear: fanciful and unrealistic
discussions of what we'd do with a pot of money that wouldn't be available
for a decade and only exists in the first place if you assume exponential
growth....are not for research-l


> >... time is better spent doing research with the resources
> > we have now....
>
> I wish someone would please replicate my measurement of the variance
> in the distribution of fundraising results using the editor-submitted
> banners from 2008-9, and explain to the fundraising team that
> distribution implies they can do a whole lot better than sticking with
> the spiel which degrades Foundation employees by implying they
> typically spend $3 or £3 on coffee. (Although I wouldn't discount the
> possibility that some donors feel good about sending Foundation
> employers to boutique coffee shops.)
>
> We know donor message- and banner-fatigue exists as a strong effect
> which limits the useful life of fundraising approaches in some cases,
> so they have to keep trying to keep up. When are they going to test
> the remainder of the editors' submissions?
>

Given that you've been asking for that analysis for four years, and it's
never been done, and you've been repeatedly told that it's not going to
happen, could you....take those hints? And by hints, I mean explicit
statements.
 I appreciate that you're operating in good faith, but there comes a point
when http://wondermark.com/1k62/ starts proving that life imitates art.
Repeatedly having this same conversation is a colossal, ever-draining waste
of everyone's time. Please stop bringing it up.


-- 
Oliver Keyes
Research Analyst
Wikimedia Foundation
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