Thank you, Federico! Your link to phabricator explain this. However, it would be nice if such changes will be described in Read.me file
Alex On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 2:00 PM, < [email protected]> wrote: > Send Wiki-research-l mailing list submissions to > [email protected] > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wiki-research-l > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > [email protected] > > You can reach the person managing the list at > [email protected] > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Wiki-research-l digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: How to explain drop in random searches (Daniel Moyer) > 2. Re: How to explain drop in random searches (Federico Leva (Nemo)) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 11 May 2015 23:13:15 -0700 > From: Daniel Moyer <[email protected]> > To: Research into Wikimedia content and communities > <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [Wiki-research-l] How to explain drop in random searches > Message-ID: > <CAKvQcvXcMXSc2SkDVJTTbs2MXuCSpeHcHeSd= > [email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > A lot of thanks and credit to the analytics team for keeping these counts > running. > > That being said, it might be a good idea not to draw too many conclusions > from the pageview counts on user behaviour without a closer analysis, > especially for the Special:* pages. As demonstrated by the October 16th > drop, these are strongly affected by instrument bias. > > On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 10:56 PM, Alex Druk <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Because similar patterns are observed for many other languages (but not > > all), it looks like R.Stuart Geiger explanation is correct: from October > > 16 2014 Special:Random page is just not counted any more (with some not > > clear exceptions). > > > > That’s a pity because we lost valuable source of info how Wikipedia users > > look for information. Random search was (and is?) a major way users > explore > > Wikipedias. In many languages Special:Random was significantly higher > than > > Main_Page count and certainly higher than search with index.php. > > > > (I do not want to point finger, but maybe somebody at WMF considered this > > emotionally.) > > > > IMHO, logs should be logs and log actual activity. At least such > dramatic > > changes in logging user’s activity should be documented somewhere. > Betters > > in Read.me file that should accompany raw logs. > > > > >Date: Mon, 11 May 2015 20:08:40 -0700 > > >From: "R.Stuart Geiger" <[email protected]> > > >To: Research into Wikimedia content and communities > > > <[email protected]> > > >Subject: Re: [Wiki-research-l] Wiki-research-l Digest, Vol 117, Issue > > > 14 > > >Message-ID: > > > <CAKt0Q=e-_=0= > > [email protected]> > > >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > > > > >Going from 86,000,000 a month to 31,000 a month is quite a drop, and the > > >shift is pretty dramatic. It goes from 1.7 million one day to 715 the > next > > >and stays flat (http://stats.grok.se/en/201410/Special:Random). > > > > > >I was also thinking there could be a bot or something that is scraping > > >Special:Random, but the drop also happens for Special:Random/Talk -- > which > > >hardly anybody uses, but it still drops flat the same day ( > > >http://stats.grok.se/en/201410/Special:Random/Talk). It doesn't happen > > for > > >Special:Upload or Special:Log though. > > > > > >October 16th, 2014 is the day it changes. Anybody know of something that > > >might have changed that day with logging? Also, there have to be way > more > > >than ~1,000 hits a day to Special:Random. Perhaps pageviews started to > be > > >counted for the page that it got redirected to, rather than the > > >Special:Random page itself. But then why wouldn't it go to 0? What are > > >those ~1,000 hits a day? > > > > > >[image: 👻] ~~ it is a mystery ~~ [image: 👻] > > > > > > -- > > Thank you. > > > > Alex Druk > > [email protected] > > www.wikipediatrends.com > > (775) 237-8550 Google voice > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Wiki-research-l mailing list > > [email protected] > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wiki-research-l > > > > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wiki-research-l/attachments/20150511/6bc3632b/attachment-0001.html > > > -------------- next part -------------- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: emoji_u1f47b.png > Type: image/png > Size: 1778 bytes > Desc: not available > URL: < > https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wiki-research-l/attachments/20150511/6bc3632b/attachment-0001.png > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Tue, 12 May 2015 09:18:54 +0200 > From: "Federico Leva (Nemo)" <[email protected]> > To: Research into Wikimedia content and communities > <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [Wiki-research-l] How to explain drop in random searches > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed > > Alex Druk, 12/05/2015 07:56: > >>Going from 86,000,000 a month to 31,000 a month is quite a drop, and the > >>shift is pretty dramatic. It goes from 1.7 million one day to 715 the > next > >>and stays flat (http://stats.grok.se/en/201410/Special:Random). > > That's expected. The new data excludes redirecting URLs (requests which > got a 301, 302 or 303 status code. > https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T73790 > > Nemo > > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Wiki-research-l mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wiki-research-l > > > End of Wiki-research-l Digest, Vol 117, Issue 17 > ************************************************ > -- Thank you. Alex Druk [email protected] (775) 237-8550 Google voice
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