As a casual reader of this list would it be foolish of me to suggest that you 
seek funding from a variety of sources and publish the results in a variety of 
journals? Your methodological skills and depth of personal insight would carry 
over between academic reality and the open ideal, no?

Best regards -- Ward

On Jun 28, 2016, at 10:38 PM, Piotr Konieczny <[email protected]> wrote:

> The problem is that most of those are not indexed in top tier indexes. For 
> example, my career requires me to publish in SSCI index, and in my field, 
> sociology, do you know how many out of ~120 journals indexed in SSCI are 
> green open access? Zero. 
> WMF grants exist to make research easier, but they also should take into 
> consideration the realities of academic publishing. Personally, I hate to 
> think that my research goes to support parasites like Elsevier and their ilk, 
> but if I publish in the green open access journals I respect, well, my 
> evaluation from the university bureaucrats will not be very respectful to me. 
> So publishing my wiki research in such venues is not an option.
> 
> Of course, you may say that in such case I should not ask for WMF grants at 
> all, but I do not think that we should penalize researchers who are in fields 
> like sociology - it is not their fault that the OA movement hasn't made much 
> inroads in their field (well, it is, to some degree, but that's going OT). 
> Bottom line is that WMF grants should support research and its dissemination 
> in what is seen as quality journals and  related outlets, too.
> --
> 
> Piotr Konieczny, PhD
> 
> http://hanyang.academia.edu/PiotrKonieczny
> http://scholar.google.com/citations?user=gdV8_AEAAAAJ
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Piotrus
> On 6/29/2016 11:01, Stuart A. Yeates wrote:
>> There are many open access journals which do not charge fees or any 
>> description.  See http://www.opendoar.org/ or talk to a friendly librarian 
>> to find a journal that meets your needs. 
>> 
>> cheers
>> stuart
>> 
>> --
>> ...let us be heard from red core to black sky
>> 
>> On Wed, Jun 29, 2016 at 1:49 PM, Maximilian Klein <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Hello All,
>> 
>> As you might know WMF has an Open Access Policy that requires all work that 
>> they fund to be Open Access[1]. A strange consequence of this policy, that I 
>> recently ran into, is that it requires researchers funded by grants to 
>> publish OA -- but without providing any funding to do so. That is, I 
>> recently completed an Individual Engagement Grant (IEG), part of whose scope 
>> was explicitly to write a paper about the work[2], and when I wrote to WMF 
>> to acquire funds for OA publishing, they confirmed that the paper was under 
>> the OA mandate but indicated that funds were not available to pay for OA 
>> publishing.
>> 
>> Has anyone else use WMF's Open Access Policy?  What was your experience?
>> 
>> [1] https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Open_access_policy
>> [2] 
>> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:IEG/WIGI:_Wikipedia_Gender_Index#Activities
>> 
>> Make a great day,
>> Max Klein ‽ http://notconfusing.com/ 
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