Thinking in a little more depth about how such a game might work it occurs to me that:
(a) being able to rank the 'interestingness' of items help differentiate that we most want photos of (think of an algorithm to combine the relative ranks of all articles on a topic across all projects) (b) often the location of things (especially people) is not in their article, but can be deduced (for many academics we know which campus they work on and the location of that campus, for example) (c) people will have favourite kinds of photographic subjects, an app might let people prioritise classes of items. (d) Many images in commons are little used, a game could give bonuses for photos that are used by multiple projects on high-ranking pages (e) Many images in commons have far too little metadata, a game could give bonuses for the presence of metadata (cats, keywords, textual description, etc) cheers stuart -- ...let us be heard from red core to black sky On Tue, Jul 19, 2016 at 7:12 PM, Gerard Meijssen <[email protected]> wrote: > Hoi, > Restricting it to Wikipedia sure. But that is not who we are. We include > Commons, Wikidata... There are plenty possibilities to combine the three. > You do not need to write to read an article and decide what relations > exists between multiple articles and as a consequence set the stage for > Wikidata statements or the need for sources. > Thanks, > GerardM > > On 19 July 2016 at 08:55, Jan Dittrich <[email protected]> wrote: > >> In regards to smartphones in general: I suppose editing Wikipedia as a >> general activity is unlikely to be great no matter how good our apps are. >> Screen and Keyboard don't lend themselves for editing (longer) prose. >> However, with stuart’s and pine’s idea of using OSM and GPS for photos we >> would use what smartphones and their users are good at. Also, adding data >> to existing items on wikidata or correcting typos on Wikipedia might be >> things that could be done well in an app that provides functionality geared >> towards that specific usecase. >> >> > this leaves the door open for competitors to remix our content with >> better interfaces, and also encourages potential contibutors to leave >> Wikimedia for places that provide nice, modern designs and user experiences. >> >> Interesting point. Are there ideas of how other's remixes could help to >> actually strengthen rather than weaken the project? >> >> Jan >> >> 2016-07-15 4:22 GMT+02:00 Pine W <[email protected]>: >> >>> I was thinking along similar lines as Stuart, using OSM to navigate and >>> encouraging users to take photos of landmarks and other buildings where >>> that's permitted by FOP. Landmarks for which we have only small photos, old >>> photos (more than about 3 years), or no photos could be prioritized. >>> >>> Also, for readers, how about showing the readers an OSM view of the >>> world and noting which nearby features have Wikipedia articles as the users >>> navigate on the map? >>> >>> Finally, I'd like users to have emotionally rewarding experiences when >>> exploring our content, as well as creating new content or editing existing >>> content. Editing is painful on mobile, and even on desktop in VE there are >>> bugs which are frustrating. I'd like our tools to work properly, fast, and >>> intuitively. I realize that WMF has a limited budget, but our interface is >>> a ways from being a smooth and enjoyable experience, both on VE and on >>> wikitext. And for readers, I'd like to have robust multimedia search and >>> interactive features. We are far behind in our interfaces compared to sites >>> and apps that others provide, and I hope that we can close that gap within >>> the next two to three years. If WMF does not improve its interfaces >>> rapidly, this leaves the door open for competitors to remix our content >>> with better interfaces, and also encourages potential contibutors to leave >>> Wikimedia for places that provide nice, modern designs and user experiences. >>> >>> Pine >>> On Jul 14, 2016 15:03, "Stuart A. Yeates" <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> A game built on a travel-photograph-upload loop would be a great way to >>>> build our depth of imagery. >>>> >>>> cheers >>>> stuart >>>> >>>> -- >>>> ...let us be heard from red core to black sky >>>> >>>> On Fri, Jul 15, 2016 at 9:52 AM, Toby Negrin <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi Pine -- did you have any specific ideas? I spent some time in the >>>>> gaming industry and am familiar with Ingress, the game that Pokeman Go is >>>>> based on, as well as the theories behind mechanics/compulsion loops that >>>>> mobile games use. >>>>> >>>>> I'll share one general thought -- the research-edit-publish loop is a >>>>> great mechanism -- it's quick and easy and very gratifying, especially >>>>> combined with a google search. >>>>> >>>>> However, we've generally found that the notion that we use gaming >>>>> mechanics to encourage people to read or edit wikipedia does not have >>>>> broad >>>>> support in our communities. >>>>> >>>>> -Toby >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Jul 14, 2016 at 2:26 PM, Pine W <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi WMF Mobile and Research, >>>>>> >>>>>> I'm wondering if we (mostly meaning "you" but perhaps with external >>>>>> collaborators) have considered how the Wikipedia mobile apps, Wikipedia >>>>>> mobile web, the Wikidata game, and/or the Commons app could borrow some >>>>>> design ideas or features from Pokémon Go to make Wikimedia offerings more >>>>>> appealing, particularly to younger audiences. This would apply to content >>>>>> consumption and contribution, as well as community aspects of Wikimedia >>>>>> experiences, particularly on mobile platforms. >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>> >>>>>> Pine >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Mobile-l mailing list >>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mobile-l >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Wiki-research-l mailing list >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wiki-research-l >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Wiki-research-l mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wiki-research-l >>>> >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Wiki-research-l mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wiki-research-l >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Jan Dittrich >> UX Design/ User Research >> >> Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. | Tempelhofer Ufer 23-24 | 10963 Berlin >> Phone: +49 (0)30 219 158 26-0 >> http://wikimedia.de >> >> Imagine a world, in which every single human being can freely share in >> the sum of all knowledge. 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