Thanks for the update, Leila -- great to see this is about to be addressed!
Bob On Tue, May 2, 2017 at 5:16 PM, Leila Zia <[email protected]> wrote: > + John and Lauren > > On Tue, May 2, 2017 at 5:49 AM, Robert West <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > One quick thought: it would be extremely useful for your purposes to > > be able to study not only the static structure of references pointing > > from Wikipedia to external documents, but also how these references > > are used. Tracking this traffic is currently impossible, since it will > > only leave a footprint on the webserver of the link target, not on > > Wikimedia's webservers. > > > > Have you thought about the possibility of funneling external links > > through a Wikimedia URL, which would allow you to record the links > > through which users leave Wikipedia? > > > > I know this would be a major change to the infrastructure, and I'm not > > sure how the privacy implications would line up with Wikipedia's > > guidelines, but it's worthwhile giving it some serious thought. At the > > very least, Wikimedia could store counts of external-link clicks, > > without linking those clicks to users' Wikimedia-internal browse > > traces. > > > ha! interesting that you say this. :) > > John and Lauren reached out to us some months ago after we published > the work on Why We Read Wikipedia and asked about the possibility of > doing exactly what you say above. We met a few weeks ago and are now > exploring that space together. Pending on Board and FDC approvals, > this is an item which is part of our next annual plan programs. > > Bob, you may have seen https://purl.stanford.edu/ny213kn0075 before? > John wrote this some years ago because they had access to the server > logs of Stanford's Encyclopedia of Philosophy and they could learn > more about the relation between Wikipedia reference usage and that. It > would be great if we can repeat that kind of analysis, but this time > beyond just that one specific resource. > > We will post the proposal on meta as soon as the steps are solidified. > In the mean time, feel free to chat with John and Lauren directly. > > Andrea, I know Lauren will be in WikiCite as well. The two of you may > enjoy having a chat with each other. :) > > Best, > Leila > p.s. John, Lauren: I'm not sure if you're on this public list. If > you're not, please feel free to subscribe at > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wiki-research-l > > > > > Bob > > > > On Mon, May 1, 2017 at 9:17 PM, Andrea Forte <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > Hi all, > > > > > > > > > One of my PhD students, Meen Chul Kim, is a data scientist with > experience > > > in bibliometrics and we will be working on some citation-related > research > > > together with Aaron and Dario in the coming months. Our main goal in > the > > > short term is to develop an enhanced citation dataset that will allow > for > > > future analyses of citation data associated with article quality, > > > lifecycle, editing trends, etc. > > > > > > > > > The project page is here: > > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Understanding_ > the_context_of_citations_in_Wikipedia > > > > > > > > > The project is just getting started so this is a great time to offer > > > feedback and suggestions, especially for features of citations that we > > > should mine as a first step, since this will affect what the dataset > can be > > > used for in the future. > > > > > > > > > Looking forward to seeing some of you at WikiCite!! > > > > > > Andrea > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > :: Andrea Forte > > > :: Associate Professor > > > :: College of Computing and Informatics, Drexel University > > > :: http://www.andreaforte.net > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Wiki-research-l mailing list > > > [email protected] > > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wiki-research-l > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Wiki-research-l mailing list > > [email protected] > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wiki-research-l > > _______________________________________________ > Wiki-research-l mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wiki-research-l > _______________________________________________ Wiki-research-l mailing list [email protected] https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wiki-research-l
