Hi, So we've started talking to the FCK Editor guys... in just the last few months they started taking their editor and trying to get it to work in a more integrated way with MediaWiki. The funny thing is that they did templates exactly how we were going to do them. The other funny thing is that they're in Warsaw, Poland... so Emil will be making a trip to see them as soon as he's back in Poland.
As everyone knows, we've been developing a variant of the SocialText editor... but the FCK Editor guys started with something further along... so we're going to talk to them and probably try this out. It came up here at Wikimania just today, also... lots of coincidences. The funny part was hearing Brion Vibber, of all people, say that eventually all of mediawiki will move toward wysiwyg editing... that it's inevitable... (but Tim Starling added, "but it's going to take a while"). Anyway... nice spotting that development in FCK Editor DanTMan... I hadn't looked at it in a while. John Q. John Q wrote: > Hi DanTMan, > > We made a strategic decision to use YUI a while back. It's been > released openly, it's supported by Yahoo, it has incredible > documentation and example code, and it's tested on the core set of > browsers very thoroughly. So, yes, you can count on being able to use > YUI. > > Our servers currently compress the js files being downloaded and > shortly we'll be consolidating files for less back-and-forth. > > For FSKEditor and MediaWiki, we took a look at that before venturing > down the path of making our own. Here are some of the things I saw on > the FSKEditor extension page that led us to our decision: > > * On a per-page-basis: Do not add the token "__USE_EDITOR__" on an > existing page which contains standard wiki syntax. The fckeditor > removes line breaks which corrupts your page layout. (But don't > panic, the history function is always available.)The text is > stored as *HTML* in the database. > * Removal of unwanted, hidden text properties can be a hard job in > some cases. > * Using Netscape 7.1 browser, you cannot use the "browser page-back" > navigation function beyond a page, where the WYSIWYG editor was > invoked for page editing. > * /Paste/ function (pasting clipboard content) seems to be > prohibited - at least when using Netscape 7.1 browser. > * "Show preview" function does not work properly. > * Templates will work if they do *only* contain wiki syntax. > * Special pages cannot be included. > > The biggest issue for us, obviously, was that it stored data as HTML. > However, I see this page created as of July 17th, 2007( > http://mediawiki.fckeditor.net/index.php/Main_Page ) that discusses it > storing wikitext, so we need to take another look. > > Thanks, > John Q. > > > > > DanTMan wrote: >> I see we're loading the entire core for the YUI into Wikia. >> I'm wondering, how much of this is going to stick around? I've >> actually been working on ways to use the YUI and a few other things >> inside of MediaWiki. (I Got YUI Animated Tabs working, and EditArea's >> Syntax Highlighting enabled editor to work via Userscript only.) It >> could be nice to use the YAHOO YUI Libs to take the place of some of >> the existing things such as ShowHide and the cookie's used in some >> things like my CharInsert hider with cookie persistence. >> >> On the note of editors. What's the status of the plans for WYSIWYG? I >> looked over WYSIWYG extensions, and the FCKeditor+MediaWiki looks to >> me like the best done editor. Even if Wikia is going to build it's >> own WYSIWYG editor for MediaWiki using WikiWYG I'm considering making >> helping the FCKeditor+MediaWiki project something for Wiki-Tools to >> do. Other than just the WYSIWYG functions and fixing the bugs like >> broken diff previews, I'm considering attempting to add a Syntax >> highlighting mode for WikiText, CSS, JS, and I suppose a few other >> languages. >> >> Looking over Wikia's extensions familiarizing myself with what there >> is to code. I notice some extensions I'd love to use, and some using >> tricks I'd never dare use in a thousand years... What are release >> plans? There are a few that would fit will for me, but the code is >> all GPL licensed. And last I remember reading the GPL, it let you >> keep the code to yourself. But if you distributed it you had to >> freely distribute it to everyone. So I don't believe I could just use >> some of the extensions. On that note, it would be nice to tag some of >> those stable extensions with the ExtensionCredits and release them. >> >> > _______________________________________________ Wikia-l mailing list [email protected] http://lists.wikia.com/mailman/listinfo/wikia-l
