I'll have Christian look at that now.
John Q.

Victor wrote:
> Just noticed something while customising monaco somewhat...
>
> <a accesskey="z" href="/wiki/Main_Page">Muppet Wiki</a>
>
> That is in the HTML regardless of wiki you look at. Probably won't 
> make a big issue but .. should it be like that?
>
> On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 1:17 PM, Timothy J. Crowell 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:
>
>     As an add-on note to DanTMan's email I think that
>     MediaWiki:Monaco-sidebar should ignore lines without a "|" unless it
>     opens a submenu.
>
>     -Timothy
>
>     On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 7:51 PM, DanTMan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>     <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:
>     >
>     >  The sidebar has always been in a format:
>     >  * text
>     >  ** link|text
>     >  Even in the default sidebars you see:
>     >  * navigation
>     >  ** mainpage|mainpage
>     >  Signifying that you always use the | format for links, and
>     without it the
>     > item is meant to be text.
>     >  In fact, last time I checked the code, if you don't specify a |
>     for the
>     > MonoBook sidebar on the second level, it won't even display.
>     >
>     >  Perhaps, instead of a ugly workaround we should go with the
>     expected
>     > standard. Anything with a | should be a link, and anything
>     without one
>     > should just be text.
>     >  ~Daniel Friesen(Dantman) of:
>     > -The Gaiapedia (http://gaia.wikia.com)
>     > -Wikia ACG on Wikia.com <http://Wikia.com>
>     (http://wikia.com/wiki/Wikia_ACG)
>     > -and Wiki-Tools.com (http://wiki-tools.com)
>     >
>     >  JohnQ wrote:
>     >  I think we can solve this technically with something like what
>     Timothy
>     > has below. We'd have to differentiate links from non-links on
>     the top
>     > level nav and that might make it look a bit weird. Let me poke
>     at this a
>     > bit to see if there's a good middle ground.
>     >
>     > Thanks,
>     > John Q.
>     >
>     >
>     > Timothy J. Crowell wrote:
>     >
>     >
>     >  *|{{FULLPAGENAME}}|A
>     > **a1|a1text
>     > **a2|a2text
>     > *{{FULLPAGENAME}}|B
>     > **b1|b1text
>     > **b2|b2text
>     >
>     > That is what I use as a workaround, something like:
>     >
>     > #nolinksubmenu#|A
>     >
>     > ...would be nice.
>     >
>     > -Timothy
>     >
>     > On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 10:03 PM, Jamie Hari
>     <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>
>     > wrote:
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     >  Hello all,
>     >
>     >
>     > Let me be the first to say a big thank you for all Wikia's hard
>     work on this
>     > new skin! Looks amazing so far. I can't wait to hear from my
>     community about
>     > it...
>     >
>     >
>     > With that said, I have found one 'bug' with Monaco. ('bug' or
>     'design
>     > preference', what have you...)
>     > In the monaco-sidebar, when defining a top-level header, it
>     automatically
>     > links to the page of the same name.
>     >
>     > For instance:
>     >
>     >
>     > *A
>     > **a1|a1text
>     > **a2|a2text
>     > *B|Btext
>     > **b1|b1text
>     > **b2|b2text
>     >
>     > A and B are automatically links to [[A]] and [[B]], which may not be
>     > desirable in all cases.
>     > On the Marvel Database, 'Top Content' is a top-level link, but
>     we have no
>     > page called 'Top Content'.
>     >
>     > http://en.marveldatabase.com/Top_Content
>     >
>     > The easy fix is a redirect, but on those wikis who don't create the
>     > redirects, this could be confusing for fast-fingered new visitors...
>     >  In this break-out menuing style, shouldn't we be able to define
>     if each is
>     > a link or not?
>     >
>     >
>     > Thoughts?
>     >
>     >
>     > --
>     > Jamie Hari
>     > Editor-in-Chief
>     > Marvel & DC Database Projects
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     > On 2/25/08, JohnQ <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     >  Hi everyone,
>     >
>     > Last Friday we made Monaco the default on 1500 of the smallest
>     wikis so
>     > that we could test it out in a variety of environments. We found
>     a few
>     > issues that we've been working to fix before making it more
>     generally
>     > available. I'm happy to announce that Monaco is now available in
>     your
>     > skin preferences so that you can check out your wiki in this new
>     skin.
>     > We consider this much more a successor to monobook and hope you
>     like it.
>     >
>     > In the next few days, unless we find any blocking issues, all
>     wikis that
>     > currently have a Quartz default will be changed to a Monaco
>     default. If
>     > you want to switch it back, you can via the skin chooser. For
>     the wikis
>     > with fairly heavy customization (ffxi, marveldatabase, dcdatabase,
>     > wookieepedia, etc.), there should already be a custom version of
>     Monaco.
>     > To check it out in advance just select "Monaco - custom" for your
>     > personal skin preference (you may need to un-check "see custom"
>     so that
>     > the overall wiki setting isn't overriding your personal choice).
>     >
>     > Some wikis have already set Monaco as the default skin by
>     themselves:
>     > http://muppet.wikia.com (admins, just go to skin preferences,
>     scroll to
>     > the bottom to "Admin options" and you can set it there, too).
>     >
>     > There is a page here:
>     > http://inside.wikia.com/wiki/Monaco_Skin_Customization that talks in
>     > more depth about how to customize Monaco.
>     > There is a page here: http://inside.wikia.com/wiki/New_Skin_Chooser
>     > that talks about the skin chooser in more depth if you have
>     questions
>     > about that.
>     >
>     > One nice thing about Monaco is that you can create your own personal
>     > sidebar and toolbox links (see the customization page for how to
>     do that).
>     >
>     > Please take a look at your wiki with Monaco and let us know if
>     you find
>     > any issues.
>     >
>     > Thanks
>     > John Q.
>     >
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