https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4582





--- Comment #235 from Bill Clark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  2008-11-26 16:49:05 UTC 
---
(In reply to comment #234)

> Mr Z-man's comment re squid caching for anon users is not a reason why date
> formatting cannot default to a human-readable format (instead of self::NONE,
> which -- because of "ISO" date usage -- is a disaster).

No, but it IS a reason why date formats for anons can't be different based on
the browser settings indicated by the Accept-Language header.  All anons would
need to see the same date format, which is fine by me (just make the default
the "international" format of DMY and screw any jingoist Americans who are
confused or offended by that, or let them register and set a preference) but
that has already been soundly rejected by the community, multiple times.

To clear a few things up, this ticket is NOT asking to allow for linked dates
that bypass autoformatting, because that's already a standard feature (just use
the [[:]] format of link) and it's not asking to change the meaning of [[:]]
formatted dates so that they autoformat but don't link (which would reverse the
current intent of linked dates and thoroughly confuse people.)

Unless people can agree that ALL anons should see the same date format
(presumably DMY) or somebody provides a Javascript-based solution that will do
date formatting client-side, this ticket is not able to be resolved.  It should
be closed and a new one started that takes into account everything that's been
discussed (and rejected) here so far, and asks for a more workable outcome.

...or if you really want to have the sysadmins (why does everybody call them
"developers" when WE are just as much "the developers" as they are?) apply one
of the patches already submitted, that will basically have the effect of
disabling date autoformatting and autolinking (leaving [[:]] dates untouched in
terms of format and link) for all users.  I guess that's better than manually
unlinking dates (since it leaves the markup in place for possible future use)
but not by much.

-Bill


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