https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17592





--- Comment #17 from Purodha Blissenbach <[email protected]> 
 2009-02-26 00:39:40 UTC ---
> Nds stands for the German part of the Lower Saxon language only.

That's hard for me to believe.
This was only possible if "German part" included language varieties spoken in
the Netherlands, or, conversely, if "non-German part" included language
varieties spoken inside Germany. As a matter of fact, there are not so small
areas on both sides of the border where spoken Nedersassisch languages don't
differ, according to even recent publications. They state also, that there are
tendencies for them to diversify developping towards their mutual envelopping
official languages of their respective states, but while that is influential
for the so-called regiolect, the so-called dialectal base is hardly touched
(yet).

On the other hand, there is absolutely no evidence for me that the dividing
line of writing either orthography is not, today, coinciding with the state
border, as a consequence of the schools teaching state language orthographies.

That is contradicting. Whatever the nds code definiton is, halting it at the
state border has either to be very fuzzy, or is not realistic.

> It is wrong to go for the nds-DE.
This may be true for WMF language policy. Simply following the ISO formalism,
it is of course an allowed option. Whether or not it makes sense, is another
topic. Whether or not it serves as a solution here is, just again, another
thing.

If you criticize the "invention" of nds-NL, then it's even more unclear as to
what should be done.

- Apply for distinctive orthographic codes?
(which then would have to be nl-spelling-based, de-spelling-based, and possibly
wep, I believe)

- Subdivide current nds-NL into its various more localized variants? (Do we
have enough authors / translators, currently, to support that?)

- What should be done with nds Wikisource? Only build it out of language
switching templates? There would not be really much content beyond
not-to-be-altered original documents or books, so that might be possible, I
believe.

Greetings.

P.S.
Locales are not localizatons.
MediaWiki does not support locales, atm.
Localizations of MediaWiki can only exist for a given language together with a
given orthography, atm.
Just said as to get the wording right, and make us understand each other more
clearly.


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