https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=34393
--- Comment #9 from Ryan Lane <[email protected]> 2012-02-21 02:11:44 UTC --- (In reply to comment #5) > 1. At this point Ryan Lane is the goto guy with respect to labs. I make this > bold statement since i the last 3 months your collegues on have had to deffer > to you on every issue that I've raised. The community members in the #wikimedia-labs channel can often answer many questions that I'd be able to answer. Yes, though, I'm the project lead, and the project launched like three months ago, so not everyone will be able to answer all of your questions. > 2. Even if I recruit some new volanteers and if they eventualy get commit + > labs access, they would still have to chase you down to get anything done. There are over 100 people with Labs access. I have a hard time believing that I'm a blocker for all of their work. > 3. AFAIK Labs is not a stable environment but still very much under > development In which way is it not stable? It occasionally has some bugs with new instance creation, but we've only had one minor outage that basically no one even noticed. > -- which boils down to your request being an unreasonable demand from the > community at this point in the lab project life time. > Well, before Labs existed, the answer would have simply been: go buy a server and run this yourself. Now we're able to say "ops can't support this, but you can still run it on our resources". > Therefore I entreat of you once again -- please check with other ops regarding > supporting a modern and robust build workflow is not in WMF best intreset -- > it > does seem to be the gist of WMF 5 year startegic plan. > > If there are no longer sufficent resources for supporting long running > projects in WMF and we are asked to roll our own we should migrate/outsorce > the projects to more dynamic community such as Github or Java.net. > > That to will have a strategic cost, consider that Despite the growth of WMF > dev > staff in recent years there is a decline of general interest in MediaWiki > software c.f. http://www.google.com/trends/?q=mediawiki You are assuming that supporting a software repo for Java will grow our developer community. I don't think this is really the case. If this is something required to properly test software and there's not already a way to handle it with the tools available, we'll consider it; otherwise, you can either build it in labs, or can get help from other communities for this. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. _______________________________________________ Wikibugs-l mailing list [email protected] https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
