https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2725
D.Black <[email protected]> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |[email protected] --- Comment #18 from D.Black <[email protected]> 2012-04-30 19:29:52 UTC --- (In reply to comment #15) > Your bug was not deleted. It was marked as a duplicate of this bug, because > it > *is* a duplicate. It points out the same issue this one does. Therefore, > there is no reason to keep two separate bugs open on the issue. > > The problem you illustrate is not the fault of the categorization system. > It's > the fault of how it's used. For a counterexample, suppose I look at > [[Category:Continents]]. Logically, I would expect to see about seven or > eight > articles. Maybe a couple more, like [[Indian subcontinent]]. But a > subcategory of [[Category:Continents]] is [[Category:North America]], which > contains the article [[United States]]. Therefore, if we were to just assume > categorization is transitive, you would get [[United States]] showing up in > [[Category:Continents]]. This is wrong. > > The correct course of action is probably for people to put *all* silent films > in [[Category:Silent films]]. This is a user-level issue. The software can't > force people to categorize things one way or another, and can't tell whether a > given subcategorization is meant to be transitive or not (i.e., if everything > in category X should be considered to be in its parent category Y too). > > This bug requests only that an option be given to view subcategories > recursively, I guess to a limited depth. This is a more reasonable request, > since it would not break viewing of categories like [[Category:Continents]]. > However, it still misses the point, IMO. I would say this should be WONTFIX > (in the core software) in preference to fixing bug 5244. I think this is the exact way to do it. I was looking for an extension such as the one originally suggested, but am glad I don't have it now. Let me present to you my situation. I am producing software, and have a wiki category that I want to include all pages about this software. Let's say that it goes in [[Category:My Software]] The software changes in specific ways from year-to-year, since it's only useful for about four months of the year, and the machinery to which the software interfaces is upgraded for the next year. Logically, I made sub-categories for each year, such as [[Category:My Software:2005]], [[Category:My Software:2006]], [[Category:My Software:2007]], etc. Originally, I thought that I would want to list all of the pages for each year available from the main [[Category:My Software]] page. However, as time went on, I realized that it would be more useful to talk about different subsystems for the machinery, e.g. [[Category:My Software:2007:Subsystem 1]]. As this kind of stuff proceeded on, I realized that I didn't want all of the pages in the main [[Category:My Software]]. I would end up getting a bunch of duplicate pages, and I ended up having some subcategories that really had no place being listed in the main [[Category:My Software]] page. There were, however, some things from these sub-categories and sub-sub-categories that I thought DID belong on the main [[Category:My Software]] page. Let's say that one of these was a page called [[Main Components]] that I had in [[Category:My Software:2007:Subsystem 1]]. Normally, this wouldn't be listed on the [[Category:My Software]] main page, except by going through sub-directories. The fix is to put the page is multiple categories. At the end of my [[Main Components]] edit page, I simply put [[Category:My Software:2007:Subsystem 1]] /*Should already be there*/ [[Category:My Software]] Now, it will still be part of the relevant Subsystem 1 sub-sub-category, but it will show up on the main [[Category:My Software]] page as well. It's true that it doesn't show up in a format like My Software *2007 **Subsystem 1 ***Main Components and I don't have an immediate fix for that, but I figure that (to avoid duplicate pages) one would have labelled the page something more like: [[Main Components for Subsystem 1 (2007)]] which eliminates the problem. Basically, if you design your sub-category architecture right, you won't end up with a bigger problem of having a bazillion pages coming up for a root category. I hope this helps. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. _______________________________________________ Wikibugs-l mailing list [email protected] https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
