https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18791
--- Comment #6 from stevertigo <[email protected]> 2009-05-15 22:37:58 UTC --- #! OT, maybe This may be a little bit tangential, but the general issue here has to do largely with the integration of IRC and Wikipedia: The purpose of all talk on Wikipedia is encyclopedia related, and IRC should not too different. Following from this is the idea that certain aspects of editing on Wikipedia should be augmented by IRC through ways beyond the current detached omniscient usage. The reasons for this are that while Wiki talk pages are great for adding to or manipulating document-like discussions, IRC is much more fluid. Using certain protocols we could reap the benefits of using both fluid discussion and permanent text logging integrated with Wiki discussions. One != other, but its important nevertheless to note what each has that the other lacks, and try to find some middle ground, either by: * Coding that integrates the two concepts, or * Protocols that facilitate or emulate such integration IRC-Wiki coordination has been going on for a while now, albeit a bit tangentially. But using IRC in the spirit of fairness to non-IRC users means also logging discussions that deal with specific article changes to specific article talk pages. Where all of this is going is the eventual ability to deal with article discussions and changes directly in IRC and have these be logged in Wiki article talk logs. Topic-specific chatrooms are quite feasible, if not altogether likely. One of the aspects of this is the problem that content created on IRC be copyable to Wikipedia. The default policy is that such is generally forbidden, though specific permission appears to provide a certain compromise. Specific permission could be generalized, and simple convention such as adding a tag at the end of IRC comments would help indicate that a person permits the usage of their comments on Wikipedia/Wikimedia, etc. Something as simple as.. ] User: lorem ipsum dolor sit amet akum. Q ..would indicate that their comment could be used with attribution on WP. Or a Q mode such as Username_Q could be used to indicate that anything they say on IRC under that mode is quotable with attribution. Entering into such a specific article discussion might be indicated on IRC via another simple permission convention: ] User 1: article name. AQ ] User 2.. n] article name. AQ After which any comment followed by an AQ would then be quoted by someone to the indicated article talk page: ] User: lorem ipsum sit. AQ To indicate that a comment *should or *must be quoted there, people could use something like a simple exclamation mark (!) indicating emphasis: ] User: lorem ipsum sit. AQ! Naturally, these are not automatic processes and should not be assumed to supercede article discussions. Automation of such a system would require certain integration between WP and Freenode login APIs, and the addition of various parsing commands to Freenode - probably not going to happen, but it helps to get these ideas out anyway. -Steve -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. _______________________________________________ Wikibugs-l mailing list [email protected] https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
