https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=37314

--- Comment #19 from Siebrand <[email protected]> 2012-06-07 13:01:24 UTC ---
(In reply to comment #18)
> Support NickK in this case. At general before applying global changes it would
> be a good manner to discuss them with local communities if they are really
> needed. Otherwise, if you avoid discussing, you should at least preserve the
> possibility to make corrections for communities if changes are not acceptable
> for them. As follows, you do nor the first neither the second.

As we are going into full debate mode here, something that's great on wiki talk
pages, but now what bug trackers are meant for, let me make one contribution.

You are making a fine effort to represent that what is bent as straight.

* The Ukranian localisation of MediaWiki falls back to Russian, and after that
to English. It's been like that for multiple years as someone has pointed out
in comment 2.
* MediaWiki is fully localisable, including special page URLs. If something is
not localisable, we make very reasonable and timely efforts to make it so.
* Users deserve products that are fully localised; they interact better with
them.
* Until recently, Russian and Ukranian both didn't have special page
localisation.
* As Russian has it now, Ukranian now has localisation of special page URLs in
Russian, because of fallback behaviour.

Solution? Localise everything in Ukranian and there won't be any Russian.

I'm aware of the current *political* issues involving Russian in the Ukraine.
That however, does not dismiss the linguistic reasons for "ru" as fallback for
"uk".

If you guys (and/or girls) get the localisation done, I'll make every effort so
that it will be deployed out of schedule. Please let me know when it's done.
Wile you're at it, please also have a look at magic words[1], although those
seem pretty complete already.

[1]
https://translatewiki.net/wiki/Special:AdvancedTranslate?language=uk&module=words

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