https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=37291
Donald Lancon <[email protected]> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|UNCONFIRMED |RESOLVED Resolution| |INVALID --- Comment #9 from Donald Lancon <[email protected]> 2012-06-12 16:02:01 UTC --- OK... so I finally looked at r88113, which is apparently where all of this changed radically. Let's be very precise here. There are many different kinds of wikilinks (a fact that has contributed greatly to confusion over this issue): 1. page: e.g., [[link]] or [[Special:Statistics]] 2. category: [[Category:English]] 3. image/file: [[File:Yes.png]] 4. interlanguage: [[:de:]] or [[de:]] 5. interwiki: [[species:]] 6. hidden: <!-- [[don't look at me]] --> 7. deactivated: <nowiki>[[look at me]]</nowiki> 8-14. template-provided versions of, respectively, 1-7 Before r88113, 1-7 (in fact, _any_ instance of "[[") were all counted, but not 8-14. Afterwards, 1 and 8 are counted and no others. (Even though I can't check 8-14 with my script, checking for only type 1 links gave counts that matched {{NUMBEROFARTICLES}} on four wikis I tried it on. So there ya go.) Unfortunately, this means you can't tell anymore just from the raw page source whether a page will be an article or not (I mean, say, if it has a template on it but no page links); it must be parsed first. Seems to me, this amounts to a fundamental change in the way articles are counted (the changes in article counts that have resulted is proof enough of this) that was only ever discussed beforehand by a handful of people in bug 11868 -- and nobody there seemed to actually be discussing _this_ particular counting method! (Brion, for example, stated that the new method would "overcount" articles, which is the opposite of what has happened!) IOW, this "new" state of affairs (which, although over a year old at this point, has not yet propagated to projects beyond Wikisource and Wiktionary, because updateArticleCount.php hasn't been run on them) was not arrived at through any real consensus process. In fact, Nemo_bis, I see that's essentially what you said just 3 weeks before the changes were committed by IAlex <https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=24754#c1>. So, anyway... I guess this bug is finished, and I need to start a (now more informed) discussion about this on Meta.... -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. _______________________________________________ Wikibugs-l mailing list [email protected] https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
